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High voltage HHO by IronHead

Started by IronHead, March 08, 2007, 06:19:16 PM

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d3adp00l

@zff you 75v test showed .88ml hho per watt minute, and the 32v shows 1.66ml per watt minute, and the 13v shows .98ml per watt minute. Which I find to be interesting indeed. Generally speaking in an electrical system output is simply a function of watts, volts and amperage matter little, you can get the same work done with 120v @10a as 12v @100a however your results are indicating no such relationship. and in all reality your results also show no relation between volts or amps and output. In my tests so far as v increases so does amps (as does yours seemingly) and output increases in a fairly linear manner, v up a up output up. But as IH has said it seems that there is a sweetspot for l per watt minute, which will be nice to note therefore a more eff. voltage for the cell can be applied instead of wasting power. I imagine the optimum v has to do with spacing and surface area. We should see about mapping that out. Right now I am working with an open cell as a baseline, be production is in the 500ml per minute range which makes testing a large data grid a long process, I need a more sensitive flow meter.
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ZeroFossilFuel

@d3 - That's correct. It's not a simple relationship. There are other factors such as convection currents within the cell that increase efficiency as production rises, to a practical limit where the maximum flow rate through the plates is achieved by convection only.

However, please note that my results also point to something else. There are factors that contribute greatly to efficiency such as:

  • electrolyte concentration, chemistry and temperature
  • plate composition, spacing and surface preparation
  • voltage waveform and frequency
  • leakage current isolation between cells
  • barometric pressure
Maximizing efficiency is now the game, not just brute force production.
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George Jetson

Anyone try using blocking diodes right before the plates? Read that if you pulse though transformer into the cell though the diodes you can then begin to build up voltage in the cell  until the brake down and volts turn to amps. I really think that meyers was doing this. I mean then you don't have to have the so called renocencse of water frequency. I think the idea is just to build up voltage and then keep it in there. I hope to try this on my next cell but first i need to read about transfomers and what kinda large diode to use.

keithturtle

Bubbler is taking shape despite the planer 1 degree off <dumb>.

Hope to test sat, at least with air.  The best tube I found was indeed, aquarium parts.  Polycarbonate won't like the KOH, but I'm at low concentrations with tighter plate spacing.

Still at it,

Turtle
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George Jetson

Is foam a bad thing? I am testing out my cell with KOH and Water. I am no where near 20 percent probably closer to ten. My cell gaps are 1/4 so I am testing to see what it will do at a higher amp load. Goal is 25 to 30 amp. I am getting alot of action and alot of foam. I assume the Vac will take care of it. My container isn't clear so I am wondering does this happen when the hho can't get out of the water and just builds up?