High voltage HHO by IronHead

[IronHead]

Hey guys , sorry I have not been on here in a long time. Myself and others have been working on a solution for people that do not have the time or ability to build their own Cells . So we have put this together   http://energybuilders.net/  to help more people get into this technology. We are fully open source for those that can "build it"   as you will see on the net and youtube . There are many videos on what we are doing and how.


Hope to get back into the OU  fourm abit more as time provides
Thank you
IronHead

[professor]

I'm building my hho driver board and on the high frequency side there was suppose to a 200 nF 16v capacitor in the cricuit. I placed a big order and receive my components from MOUSER in Dallas,Tx. But I'm missing the 200nF cap. Does anyone think I can place 2 100 nF capacitors in series and get same results as 200nF?

Parallel you will get 200 nf ,in series you get 50 nf.
professor

[sucahyo]

I'd like to recap here some of what the experimental test cell has taught me so far.

A) It is reasonably accurate to say that gas production is proportional to wattage input (I x E) for a given concentration of electrolyte.

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ZFF

I don't agree with this. plate surface area can change it too, not just electrolyte concentration.

My experiment  (tap water, 9 volts battery, no electrolyte, 2mm x 3mm surface in paralel) proove that voltage per square inch is more relevant.

When more surface is covered with glue, reducing exposed surface to water, more gas is generated and current drawn is lower, more gass at less watt, more efficient.

Sorry for broughting out old post, but I think we can achieve better effeciency if we consider surface area too.

Anyone want to try can use grid like insulated plate for experiment. The distance between exposed surface should at least double of plate distance. Make sure opening is facing each other.

[frog]

We are fully open source for those that can "build it" as you will see on the net and youtube . There are many videos on what we are doing and how.

Be gentle... this is an opinion... I have read this entire thread completely through 31 pages, I am unable to locate the ORIGINAL
thread that this was parsed from. I know it was at least twice the size as this one and contained valuable starting blocks
to this technology. 

I'm unable to verify this claim since all involved in the original class have STOPPED posting to this thread. And since you now
have a "PRODUCT" to "SELL" all the "open source" info is NOT on your site. Video links only. No diagrams. No Specs on the cell.
It has all seemed to go COMMERCIAL. Dealers/Resellers are welcome, but any OPEN SOURCE info from months gone by has been removed, which goes a very long way to explain why all the new cell designs are kept closed source, not posted to this thread or any others here at OU. Nothing on the new designs for flow and cell spacing, oh but wait, I can just buy one and reverse engineer the hardware. It seems that all the PRODUCTS listed on the site were worked out OFFLINE, w/o OPEN SOURCE sharing.

Wow...

[sucahyo]

I think information posted in this thread teach us enough stuff to make some crazy output HHO generation. There are clue on how to improve the effeciency.

But not anyone has the same final configuration isn't it? Some believe tube, other believe in palte, some believe in dry cell, some believe in isolated water, some believe in open bath. Some use high voltage, some use high ampere. There are people that use unusual configuration like me who use many very small surface and low voltage.

Different configuration have different tuning. Some tuning information is available. but it seems a slight difference in implementation can lead to different tuning data. I think this is what make open source data sometimes irrelevant. Not anyone has resource to do perfect replication.

Eagle research's 3 watt per liter sure is like impossible to reach for us. But I think information available on the net allow us to reach that if we have learn all the info and improve our design little by little.

What I learn from this thread that I think is valuable:
- 304 < 316 < 316L < and Nitronic 50
- Distilled < Tap water < Spring Water < Rainwater
- Pvc can handle KOH, but polycarbonate can't.  Polycarbonate can handle NaOH, but pvc can't
- SS heat conditioning to reduce magnetic property
- water capacitive charge conditioning
- metal that should not be used for electrolysis
- electrolyte that should not be used for electrolysis
- water circulation improve gas production
- more insulation reduce current leakage
- effeciency can be tuned with proper concentration of electrolyte, right combination of plate gap, plate size, vibration frequency (if using PWM), current and voltage (and for me pair surface area and total surface area too).



frog, I think your post may end up upsetting people and prevent further information sharing ......