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High voltage HHO by IronHead

Started by IronHead, March 08, 2007, 06:19:16 PM

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kokomoj0

Quote from: IronHead on June 05, 2007, 10:44:30 PM
Don't think , DO!
Then you will know

kokomoj0 we will get into the whole of vacuum  in time. There is a way.
Vacuum chambers and plenum/throat loop I will show this as well.

i was a bad boy and built the tungsten one :)

IronHead

Having fun out there in space kokomoj0 ? Now find your way back  oh there is no wave guide to follow . Bummer you must have missed that page  or it was not written yet. Hope you don't get burned going though the ionizer. Oh thats  where again? The NS-T cell is much more complex than it looks :)

But you just might figure it out and create a whole new universe. It is very possible.

I better get some sleep before I get far to sarcastic.

Just messing with you man. I know you are with us. And you have
been an asset to this tread.

kokomoj0

Quote from: IronHead on June 05, 2007, 11:02:06 PM
Having fun out there in space kokomoj0 ? Now find your way back  oh there is no wave guide to follow . Bummer you must have missed that page  or it was not written yet. Hope you don't get burned going though the ionizer. Oh thats  where again? The NS-T cell is much more complex than it looks :)

But you just might figure it out and create a whole new universe. It is very possible.

I better get some sleep before I get far to sarcastic.

Just messing with you man. I know you are with us. And you have
been an asset to this tread.

yah but was i right????    LOL

IronHead

You might be crazy but your not wrong.
I might have to deal with you on a whole different level.
and don't take that T-cell apart I got something for that thing.


d3adp00l

I admit I leave much explaination in the calcs, but I figured the numbers would be understood. Heres an some corrections to some misunderstandings.
@IH I am not calculating 1L per cylinder, I wrote 4 stroke, in reference to an otto cycle engine, in which the piston takes four strokes per (intake,compression,power,exhaust) complete cycle, Which would mean that for every two rotations of a piston that piston intakes once. So a 2 litre engine would intake half its cylinders per rotation (note number of cylinders is not important, but lets just say it has 4), so if the engine was at wide open throttle and the cylinders completely filled themselves the engine would intake 1 litre. And to try it with gasoline, no problem 60000 litres of air equals 60 metres cubed (at 1.3kg per M3), which would mean that 78 kg of air ran through the engine, 78kg at stoich mixture (14.7 to 1) would be 78kg X 6% = 4.68 kg of fuel. And since gasoline weighs 6.3 lbs per gallon and 6.3 lbs=2.85Kg and 4.68/2.85 = 1.6 gallons of fuel.
So it would take 1.6 gallons to drive for 1 hour , whcih gets you 60 miles. Which would equal 37.5 miles per gallon, which for freeway driving with a 2L is exactly what you would get, at least I do. And the CFM calculation was in the previous post. The cfm for a 2L engine at 2500 rpm is 1000 litres, taking into account throttle position and cylinder fill volumetric efficiency ( how effective air from outside an engine can flow into the cylinder).

Now I did not put forth these numbers to say something could or could not be done. I put forth the numbers because they are fact, and this is the stage of the game that I sit at. I seen some people comparing steam to HHo production, and I just wanted to help them in their math.

I am curious (not being sarcastic) IH you said HHO is 2.5 times more powerful, can you give me the example by which that was tested, even if it a loose test, I would like to confirm it.

And as far as increasing fuel mileage, adding a vaporous fast burning fuel to a gas engine gets a lot more bang out of gas. And as far as modification, one note to all who try to burn different fuels in engines. Keep in mind, or learn, that different fuels work with different compression ratios and ignition timing. 87 Octane gas works well with 9.0 to 1.0 compression ratio and generally 10 degrees intial advance ignition timing, where as diesel works better with 18.0 to 1.0 compression ratio, and ignition timing is a function of the diesel injector, and propane likes 13.0 to 1.0 comp ratio and about 6 degrees intial advance ignition timing.

So if anyone gets to the point of actually being able to burn HHO in an engine, I guess they would have to understand flame propagations, combustion burn rates, piston speed, octane rating, ignition events, chamber fill, etc. Otherwise one could have a system all built and trying to run but since the engine hasn't been adjusted to run the fuel its being fed with it doesn't run or doesn't run well and therefore that person might think that it was something in their system that caused the problem when in fact it was just a couple adjustments.

@IH have you experimented with HHO/AIR burn ratios, like on a modified bunsen burner?
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