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Overunity Machines Forum



High voltage HHO by IronHead

Started by IronHead, March 08, 2007, 06:19:16 PM

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d3adp00l

Well the difference between two motors of the same size, is going to have to do with comp ratios cam profiles, volumetric efficiency, amount of fuel that the fuel system can input into the motor, etc. But there are standards by which numbers can be closely approximated for stock type applications.

Quote from: IronHead on June 05, 2007, 09:18:26 PM
Correct  your 4 banger might be 80 hp and mine  with the same displacement  might be  160hp  so you must know these numbers to even enter this arena. Mine might even be more fuel efficient .
You really dont know what you fuel air mix is so...   man there are many variables in this .
History is full of people who out of fear,
Or ignorance, or lust for power have
destroyed knowledge of immeasurable
value which truly belongs to us all.

WE must not let it happen again.
-Carl Sagan

Moab

Wow!.. thanks d3adp00l that kinda made me dizy.

A few post back IH said to take some plates out, Now i feel a bit silly here, After Mr Pool's post, but what i see is the smaller bubbles seem to be rideing the elictric flow in the cell from one plate to another. It gives you an idea of how the current is flowing within the cell. Now with this lil tidbit i know where the leakage is. Is this the corect assumption Mister Ironhead?

d3adp00l

@koko, what you said about opening the butterfly and decreasing vaccum, is correct but misleading. In that scenario you are comparing manifold air pressure to atmospheric airpressure. If the intake is a closed system to a cell then the vaccum situation changes, engine demands more volume, vaccum increases in the cell. But as pressure goes down water's boiling temp goes down also, to the point of being able to boil water at room temp. And since temp in these cells seems to want to run at about 150 degrees it would be very easy to be boiling water into the engine as well as producing HHO. So what would happen then, I wonder.





Quote from: kokomoj0 on June 05, 2007, 10:36:48 PM
Quote from: magnetar on June 05, 2007, 10:26:54 PM
Quote from: Moab on June 05, 2007, 09:42:26 PM

That sucks. we need a vacuum pump too? Just kidding. so whats next?

You can get plenty of vacuum from the engine.  :)

not if you floor it and open that butterfly all the way up!  That part has bothered me because the result is inverse of what is needed!

we would need more vaccuum when more power was demanded so its backwards from what we need.
History is full of people who out of fear,
Or ignorance, or lust for power have
destroyed knowledge of immeasurable
value which truly belongs to us all.

WE must not let it happen again.
-Carl Sagan

Moab

It dosant boil like normal. Yes more bubbles happen.I know the fuel saveings are there. I have built a cell and put it in a car. It works. I think the point on this thread is to start small. I went from 19 to about 30, give or take.  Is it possible to make an IC run and proform on HHO.  Sure it is but the IC is not made to run on hho. it craves gasoline. what we need to do is start small and build to a better way of doing it. thats why we are here. Been alot of action on this thread today and we have covered more ground than our combined governments have in ten years. I guess we must do it. stop and think about it. if some So-called echo politition put as much time and money into makeing a better water cell as they did a more environmentally friendly unleaded gasoline. hell we would all be running on water. But i guess we are the ones that really do give a damn, we build and re-build. we share info and prospective. That is what is going to take to make a difference. guys like us looking for a better way, open source and free knowladged. And little by little we get better "Gas mileage" untill we dont need gas anymore. hey maybe even a better motor. I could go on and on. Just know the cell works and you will get better fuel saveings if you employ it. untill one day fuel will fall from the sky. Just Moby's .02

kokomoj0

Quote from: IronHead on June 05, 2007, 11:34:36 PM
You might be crazy but your not wrong.
I might have to deal with you on a whole different level.
and don't take that T-cell apart I got something for that thing.



oh its just been sitting on the table waiting for all those broken bones  of yours to heal!   How is that coming along?  Do you have full movement and will you have a complete recovery?