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High voltage HHO by IronHead

Started by IronHead, March 08, 2007, 06:19:16 PM

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yikes

Thanks.  That gave me some good ideas.

d3adp00l

Not to be off track, just some new info I have seen.
It appears that a 50% HHO/air mixture is viable for combustion in an engine. Based on a 2L engine it would seem that 500 l/m is the goal to hit. Anyone out there have a volt/amp per litre number to put to this data?

The best I can find right now is 715 watts per litre per minute, which would give 357500 watts per min to produce enough hho to run a car down the road. Approx 479hp. Doesn't look good, but with some higher eff cells could look good fast. The test cell for the baseline wasn't very eff. at all.

So for my 160cc testbed engine, it would take about 40 litres per minute to run or 28600 watts. A 160cc engine is also known s a 5.5hp engine which is often found on 3500 watt gensets (imagine that 5.5X746watts=4103watts). So we have a little work to do yet. But I am sure IH has a long road for us to walk down, and getting more eff. production is on that road.

Alright more data is in 12v 50a - 3.75l per min. Which is 160watts per litre per min. Which then translates to 6400 watts per litre per min. Now thats real close. another 55% reduction in electricity, and its a done deal.
History is full of people who out of fear,
Or ignorance, or lust for power have
destroyed knowledge of immeasurable
value which truly belongs to us all.

WE must not let it happen again.
-Carl Sagan

IronHead

This is not a rant, I appreciate your research.

Wow, these numbers keep getting bigger and bigger every week.
Of cource these numbers are based on brute force

Fuel enhancer is a good thing to focus on to start out . These are very big and discouraging numbers to most. But if you got a 10% to 30% decrease on gasoline consumption , would it be worth the time and effort of building an HHO cell that you could further evolve in time.Not to mention the cleaner burn of gasoline itself  using HHO lowering emissions greatly. Wonder how much you would save in one year of the operation of an HHO cell in your car.

What would 10,000 people save in a year just  on 10 to 30% . Add this into a hybrid gasoline/electric/HHO  or a compressed Hydrogen car H/HHO. Or from what you now know you might separate the HHO to use the H and O2 in an electric fuelcell car.O2 greatly enhances Fuelcell technology. This takes abit more work but can be done. We are talking strictly enhancer at the moment .
You might even build an HHO separating cell and store H and O2 at you home like  many do with propane. Storing it for fuel and to cook your steaks or weld up the old steel table outside.

The Write Brothers did not built a Boeing 747 to my knowledge
Evolution of this technology can be just as effective and you guys are the evolvers if thats even a word.

Some of you may go on to run a car strictly on HHO  . Hell for that matter one of you might invent a new engine based on this technology , implosion engine anyone? I am not even going to get into the massive force you could create if you could get to -100 vacuum.

Onward HHO Soldiers
IronHead


hkyle

@d3adp00l
Hey just so you know...This is where I was before I started at uverunity.com.....
150% efficiency
efficiency is good to have.

Quote from: bornman88 on April 13, 2007, 08:49:38 PM
"My current cell is running off of 54 volts 6 amps and making 6-7 L/m. That's 150% faraday current efficient.

Not too sure where to go next..."

That is GREAT output 324 watt with around 390 liters per hour ( 6/7 l/m)

That equates to 0.8watt per liter of gas produced!

Are you using closed cell application?

It?s easier to be forgiven than it is to get permission....

yikes

"It appears that a 50% HHO/air mixture is viable for combustion in an engine"

Hmm, I thought it was 23%.  I know H will burn at a 4% mix; it just won't have much power.  Has anyone seen a chart or formula for power:%mixture ratio?  I know Meyer had some numbers, but I have a problem believing anything he wrote (smart guy but tried to hide everything, so credibility is nil without confirmation).  Anyway, what I remember is someone comparing H to gasolene, showing that gas takes up 3% of the space in the combustion chamber because it is a liquid, while H would need 23% of the space because it is already gaseous.  How they came up with this number is something I do not remember.   The guys that were doing the land speed record using H by having the throttle wide open always and adjusting their speed by increasing the H:air mixture probably had some relevant info,,I just can't recall it.


Guys, I haven't yet done any testing on this, but I would appreciate your thoughts.  We can adjust the amp draw by adjusting the amount of catalyst in solution.  We can also adjust the size of the ss plates.  Are larger plates more productive? Does the size of the plates alter the heat produced?  

IH, playing with this booster is fun and I "think" I am learning some stuff with it, but it is just playing.  What you are doing is way, way more important.