High voltage HHO by IronHead

[hkyle]

can you post a pic of your cell?

Hi Ironhead,

Nice to meet you! Thank you for your information on Pg14! I have made one set (2X3X4 electrodes)the same to yours. I connected 2X 12V batteries in series to make up a 24V power supply ( I only have two car batteries). KOH was added as well. when it started, it drew 15amps but only 800ml/min HHO gas was produced. It was far from you guys done. I have connected to a Stan Meyer's plused circuit but no significant difference. What would you suggest me to check it up? Thank you!!

Besides, the electrolyte heated up rapidly. I didn't measure the temperature but it was vey hot. Will it reach a certain degree (ie 180F) and keep unchange? Otherwise, it goes straight boiling and water vapour mixes with HHO.

Ah..... I have tried NaOH and table salt as well. However, the bubbles were smaller and rate of HHO production was lesser than KOH. After using table salt for sometime, the pH of electrolyte went up from 7 to 12. I thought chloride left as chlorine gas and this produced a by-product, OH-.

This is what I have done in these few days and I would like to share with you guys!

Alex

[IronHead]

Bubble size.
Has to do with surface tension through the magnetic gradient.
The greater the field  the smaller the bubble. The surface tension
is not the same  in every cell cavity as the field changes through
the cell stack. If the field is very high you will see the small bubbles through
out the stack and a low field will produce the larger type bubbles . Somewhere
in the middle and you see both. In the cell I have shown the left side has less
resistance then the right side as there is loss at the connection points .So higher fields on the left and lower on the right  in the picture on pg 29.

Here is a gradient chart of sorts to show this. This chart will be even more important to understand  when we start vibrating this magnetic field causing a resonance in the cell cavities.

[IronHead]

What not to do

Hi Ironhead,

Nice to meet you! Thank you for your information on Pg14! I have made one set (2X3X4 electrodes)the same to yours. I connected 2X 12V batteries in series to make up a 24V power supply ( I only have two car batteries). KOH was added as well. when it started, it drew 15amps but only 800ml/min HHO gas was produced. It was far from you guys done. I have connected to a Stan Meyer's plused circuit but no significant difference. What would you suggest me to check it up? Thank you!!

Besides, the electrolyte heated up rapidly. I didn't measure the temperature but it was vey hot. Will it reach a certain degree (ie 180F) and keep unchange? Otherwise, it goes straight boiling and water vapour mixes with HHO.

Ah..... I have tried NaOH and table salt as well. However, the bubbles were smaller and rate of HHO production was lesser than KOH. After using table salt for sometime, the pH of electrolyte went up from 7 to 12. I thought chloride left as chlorine gas and this produced a by-product, OH-.

This is what I have done in these few days and I would like to share with you guys!

Alex

Ok first off what did I say about using salt. If one of you guys dies or get sick over this , where will that leave the rest of us. Do you think we will continue these endeavors on this forum ? Follow instructions or do it on your own ! I will not be held responsibly for you getting sick because you poisoned yourself nor will anyone else here. Do you understand the massive amount of chlorine gas that you produce using salt will stay air born in your home or lab until you fully  vent/ cycle all of the air out of your work/living area?

With that out of the way .
I am now suppose to think you build the cell the way I have layed out here? After you have not followed instruction about salt .
Have you followed instruction on charging the cell?
How did you build the cell , what kind of glue did you use?
Did you use 316 stainless and is the case Acrylic or Teflon or Ploy ?
What is the wire gauge used in your cell ?

Show some pics so we can see whats going on here.

Sorry to be so harsh guys ,but  if we were on level 5 or 6  these kinds of mistakes can really hurt you . You not producing much yet . But when you do lets leave the unsafe,
practices at a zero factor shall we ? Or someone here is going to blow them selfs up in the near future or worse.

[hkyle]

The lesser the resistance the more voltage can reach the ss plate making a stronger magnetic gradient.

With the stronger field you are aligning the hydrogen atoms towards the negative electrode, and the oxygen towards the positive electrode.

The greater the field the stronger the surface tension.
The weaker the field the weaker the surface tension.

Does the number of plates also define on how strong the field is?
Hmmm when does the toroid and chokes come into play?

Maybe we are not quite there yet...
                                               

[IronHead]

Finding the balance

The number of plates effects the field.
The more stuff that is in the path of the electric
the more resistance you have. Also the more resistance
the more heat you create as volts dumps to amps.
Amps blow of the plates as heat.

But it is resistance that is maintaining a magnetic field .
There must be a balance. To much of this and not enough
of that will cause heat problems and production problems.
So we have to learn to control everything here to find the balance.

You can control the voltage here and you can raise
the amps with electrolyte.

Can we restrict amps with out using resistance ?