High voltage HHO by IronHead

[MacGyver_1rjq104]

sorry, new here... Just wanted help.  Didn't want to accuse anyone of anything.  I do believe I am here for the same reasons, to rid the world of the blood sucking energy monopolies.

[IronHead]

I was not barking I was just explaining what we are doing and I welcome you to the Forum. I try to be clear on these things as there is much confusion about different cell types.



This cell starts on Page 14

[d3adp00l]

First of all the disclaimer:
This is not intended to say something can or can't be done, like everyone here I believe,hope, and pray that it can.

Next, response to Koko,
@koko absolutely great math homework, there are a million ways to run the equations, BTUs, mole calcs, energy density conversions, but the answer always comes out relatively the same. Mathmatically using only HHO it would seem that things can't be done. Seems being a key word. A major counterpoint to the math is there are a few videos showing engines running with alot less than a swimming pool worth of gas. And that is what gives me the hope. So like grumpy and IH say just build and see the results. 

@ IH I am not saying that your extensive work in this area is not legitimate. It is your work in this area that again gives me hope. I would be joining in on this endeavor, however my lab is not really setup to run HHO production, and I would have to mothball years worth of work to get into it. I try to limit the number of projects or else I will never finish one. 1 done is better progress than 10 started.

The reason why I "softly bashed" you IH was honestly I had read the whole thread and didn't see anywhere that you intended to tell anyone what you had accomplished and how. However you have gone to great inconvenience (and pain) to explain your concepts, so of course, I retract anything negative in your regard. I, like everyone here have seen 99% frauds in areas of study such as this and when someone shows us something to good to be true, it is.

The battle that all of you fight is an up hill one, the math doesn't really support it, but the math isn't exactly based with the working gas. This in my opinion is one reason to pursue the concept. mono-atomic hydrogen isn't a subject that has a lot of data available, especially considering that the hydrogen present is in an unusual ionic version, same goes for the oxygen.

This is why I am still trying to gather burn data for hho with percentages of atmospheric air mixed in. Anyone out there who has built IH's cell design and could put a flow meter on it then connect a bunsen burner on it, to show us all how it burns would, (my opinion i understand) do a lot for everyone. Showing different voltages, the corresponding flow rates and possible difference in burns would be an area of work with these cells I have yet to find. Again IH I do not mean to detract from what you are showing everyone, I just think that it goes hand in glove with building this cell, to show a baseline to compare your more powerful (and much more dangerous) designs. and if IH feels that this pursuit is off topic I will gladly remove it.

[hkyle]

Actually Meyer had an extreme amount of amps...He was using the cell as a capacitor. To put it simple once he exceeded the dielectric constant of water all that voltage in the capacitor collapsed. That collapse of voltage well is amperage.

simple terms....

Forgot to mention;
That is the key to making all this stuff work...Thats where I'm at...And thats why I'm here too learn the rest.

I am a little confused.  I thought Stan Meyer was doing this, "Water Fracturing", without heating up the water.  Conventional Electrolysis causes the water to heat by pumping large amounts of current into the water.  According to Stan, he only needs 500 miliamps or 1/2 amp of current and what ever the voltage is.  If you watch the video, "Equinox" on you tube, you can see that what has convinced them that it is a different way of breaking down the water is the fact that the water temp didn't change.  Am I totally off base?  Thanks for any help you can give me!!!!

It all starts with these videos  I made up of a quick and dirty high voltage HHO
system to show a few people here on the forums. Well I did not think this would hijack another thread (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1500.130.html)
completely and attract so much attention.But it did , so here we are.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnIJyNmI33U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoEXaNnBRPo


The HHO system is Hydrogen Oxygen production at 150F degrees 90VDC.This system is also pulsed. We will talk about that later as each build requires a different pulse to work proper. It is my belief that high voltage low current is required to break the bond of Hydrogen and Oxygen. At least on this level of production.This is a capacitor ,treat it like one when working with these voltages that can discharge rapidly.

It must stay at this temp (150F) or it will  steam very fast so it must be cooled with radiator. This is why I am running the bench system for a shot time . If I ran it longer you would see steam billow " A hell of a lot in a very short time" from the canister.

So what you are seeing is a dirty quick build bench top version of the system I run in my vehicle.. I will soon be removing this system from my vehicle ,to remove and replace the Silver with Nitronic as the Silver is breaking down .
Do not use Tungsten in this system on the oxygen side, It will dissolve.
316 stainless is good ,and Nitronic Stainless is preferred method.

People are asking me how much gas is produced .I am no scientist I build what works for a given application. So the system in my vehicle produces enough for what I need it to do , get more bang for the buck on a big block 454ci engine.

BTW "Moab"great job you are on the top of my list of just do-ers . The "Just done it" list as it were.
You did it with out a zillion question about this that and the other scientific blah blah. Keep up the good builds

This is a very complicated system to run in a vehicle.
If you want something easy and that is proven ,buy a MagDrive


Just Build It
just do it!

IronHead

[kokomoj0]

sorry, new here... Just wanted help.  Didn't want to accuse anyone of anything.  I do believe I am here for the same reasons, to rid the world of the blood sucking energy monopolies.

check this out;

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2057.0;attach=9542

thats alex's unit per page 14.   these units are still in the preliminary stages and IMO they already get more HHO than stans did.   may want to hang out because IH keeps pulling rabbits out of his hat so every time you think you get a lot of HHO he shows you how to get more.