Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead

[keithturtle]

Well, progress in the sense that I found something else that didn't work.   But it sure was neat listening to that thar thang talkin' to me, whilst its green rod dissolved into the abyss... thenceforth, silence.  (It was awe inspiring)

Details:   OK, I'll see if my access will let me post the final setup pic in a few... but for now, the tale.

Using the green 3/32 rod sleeved with shrinkwrap, held by a 5/32 bore sandblast tip, I suspend same in a nickel-plated screen (1mm mesh) cylinder of size 1 1/4" approx by 4" long.  Bottom of cyl formed by a plastic disc, bolted to base plate.  Top of cyl had another disc boar-hogged out fer the ceramic tip to nicely center itself.

Said apparatus was contained in a 4L plastic vessel, and 2 L of hot 130'F tap water added.   120 rectified VDC added, and amp draw was <1.0 thru that "kill-a-watt" in-line meter.   Henceforth, bringeth on the KOH.

A total of 500 mL of 2Normal KOH was added, and she was singin' a song, pullin' 5 amps and heating the water to 155'.   (Total concentration 1.43% by weight KOH in tap water.   No access to spring water jes now.)

But then it leveled off the temp rise, more KOH added, decreasing amps... what's goin' on here?   Sudden drop in power draw to < 1 amp (with all that KOH!?!).

Oh, must be some crud on the exposed rod.   Yikes!   What rod?!?   A nice sharp point up in the shrink wrap, and my rod's been abducted by aliens!!!!  Or eaten by KOH.

Peel back some wrap, expose more rod, try again... big amps fer a short while, then the same scenario.

Well, I ain't gonna let y'all get away with my rod that easy!   Shuts it down and pulls it out, and the exposed rod is half the diameter it was 10 minutes ago.    Time to turn it off and think fer a while.

It never did produce any arc, or anything I could see as an arc.  It did make enough HHO to cloud the water real good, and I added an air hose with a whisper of air to circulate electrolyte.

I reckon field proximity had a great deal to do with "no arc"... too large a diameter fer the screen cylinder.   Possibly the coarse mesh as well, cuz it ain't 100 micron... 10 times as big.

I'm into it, gents.   The next few days will be in the HHO processes, containment and such.   More on this after I get more rod and finer screen.

Thanks for yer interest.

Turtle

[IronHead]

eaten by KOH and the temp produced there of

[keithturtle]

Is field gap the greater issue?  Different electrolyte?

Thanks, IronHead.

Turtle

[IronHead]

Can you post a picture . Something is very wrong here.
With that much KOH you should have had an arc  right away
and almost white hot as well.

How much of the rod was exposed to water ?

For testing try baking soda ,a few table spoons and let the thing run
for awhile at least until it boils . if you dont get a reaction
there is something wrong with the build. Bake will produce a orange
cooler arc.

In the long run you want water and water only.

[Robb077]

Turtle:
Maybe you should try the Graco paint filter for a standard starting point. mmmm. Sounds like you have alot to decifer to find the problem....anyway, just a thought. Good luck on getting it going.