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Overunity Machines Forum



new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load

Started by magnacoaster, March 09, 2007, 01:37:35 AM

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Ted Ewert

Quote from: gyulasun on September 06, 2009, 01:05:57 PM
Hi Ted,

I have read your thoughts and findings on the MEG with interest.  Years ago I built a MEG as per the Bearden / Naudin setup but I found a COP of 0.86 or so only.
I also realized as it is shown, it is a normal transformer,  cannot work otherwise.
I would like to read your take on the so called Bulgarian MEG version where one or two of the permanent magnetic pathes that are closed in themselves like in the MEG are cut by another and independent magnetic pathes that are also closed in themselves. This way the input and output coils cannot induce directly into each other (like in the MEG) because they are placed into the two different magnetic pathes.
I believe induction between the input and output coils can happen only by saturating the core in one of the magnetic pathes, thus the other path "sees" a big magnetic resistance due to the "airgap" thus created. At least this is how I imagine the working principle, see the first post in this thread here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4300.0 

Can you agree with this principle?  IF your understanding is different on this Bulgarian setup, I would love to read it.

Also,  I am aware of magnetic amplifier circuits of the 50s (or max the 60s) when the core included (rectangular or round) holes with coils to excite a certain part of the core, causing local saturation at that part, hence increasing the magnetic resistance.  Is this a good approach to apply for building a real MEG-like setup, I wonder?

Thanks,  Gyula
Hi Gyula,
I haven't built or tested the Bulgarian MEG so I don't know if it works or not. It's an interesting design and looks like it may have possibilities. Perhaps the circular core acts as a phase shift network of some kind.
I don't claim to be any sort of expert on the MEG, I just know that the simple switching of flux from a PM through a coil doesn't produce squat.
Maybe the Bulgarian has solved this problem with his arrangement. Has anyone built a copy?

Ted

gyulasun


powercat

a new video from Richard and a new device, looks like the old one didn't work after all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9XdEVsHOQA
cat
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

markdansie

@Powercat,
well at least he stated in his video there was a lot of build-ups, a lot of let downs and a lot of trash.
i still see the battery is there. If it ran for a month with a load on the battery he might have something, not an hour.
PS obviously the last one didnt work
as always
kind Regards
Mark

exnihiloest

Quote from: Ted Ewert on September 06, 2009, 10:04:55 AM
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This is a simple setup that clearly illustrates why the MEG, in its most common form, doesn't work. ...

and the theory of fields explains it.
You have just a superposition of a constant field (from the permanent magnet) and a variable field (from the coil). As the emf in a coil depends only on the change of the magnetic flux, all is happening as if the constant field was inexistant. To remove the magnet and replace it by a piece of material of same permeability but not magnetized does not change the results. Then it is obvious that the output coil can provide energy only from the input coil, and that the magnet has no role here.