ELSA- Energy Life Saving Answer

[SeaWasp]

Regarding this device, I am with Jim on this one. Jim is correct regarding the increase in water pressure as you descend. It won't work. And regarding submarines... Once they reach a certain depth they drop like lead balloons! They rely on their engines to raise them up... Not air!

[hartiberlin]

yeah i meant to send you this link instead:
http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/forsale/plans/elsa/755.gif

Hi,
how is the air removed from the free moveable compressable piston atthe top ?

How is the air pumped down to the buttom to fill the piston with air ?
This takes also a lot of energy and it might be lesss, than what you win
when the piston pumps up the water into the upper reservoir...

But interesting idea, I must admit !

Regards, Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

from what i can understand the piston is never pumped with air because it is a sponge/foam kind of piston, it moves up the cylinder pushing water up into tank. the water that was pushed up is a lot heaver than the foam piston, this way you have more energy to push the foam-piston back down somehow to restart the whole prosses? what do you think?

That also would not work,
cause the upper water reservoir would move then down in height to
be able to push down the foam piston again.
So you would loose the potential energy of the water reservoir at the top...

There is always a catch, why these designs don?t work.
Believe me, I have tried it half a year to ponder about simular water systems
and all looked good at the first sight, but failed after deep analysis.

The only thing which might work is an imbalanced wheel which
has storage springs in it, so the movement of the weights inside the wheel is stored
just to imbalance the wheel and the springs will pull back the weights again,
so the weights are just oscillating inside the wheel to shift lever arms
and this just imbalances all the time a wheel
like the Bessler wheel and generates mechanical energy via the imbalancing.
But as the weights just only oscillate inside the wheel and imbalance it all the time,
there is a constant gain
from gravity field and the wheel can move on like the original Bessler wheel.

Regards, Stefan.

[truth]

Too bad his links don't work any more.

People are still trying to sneak that bucket of air into that pressure.

Submarines do work, but the power consumption is enough to require a nuclear reactor.

0.433 PSI per foot of depth? Is this figure correct and accurate?

Are they all this angry?

[TinselKoala]

I'm glad there are some people starting to think more clearly about buoyancy drives.

"Are they all this angry?"
Maybe not, but they sure can be persistent.

"0.433 psi per foot of depth?"
Sounds good to me. I figure one atmosphere per 33 feet. So 14.7 psi / 33 feet = 0.445 psi/foot, which is "close enough" for government work, as they say.