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Zen Generator - A No Back Torque Electromagnetic Generator

Started by tao, March 20, 2007, 11:02:23 AM

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konduct

Looks nice Tao.  Keep up the good info.  We all could use a little more Zen!

Low-Q

Wouldn't this generator provide more current and less voltage when loaded? The permeability of the iron will decrease if the coil is loaded, the magnetic field will follow the part of the toroid with no coil when the coil is sort cut, hence the missing back torque. At the same time no energy is generated in the coil. Hmmm... I think we again are walking on a dead end (or blind alley if you like).

Vidar

tao

The ONLY way that the permeability of the iron will decrease is IF the coil is outputing energy!

So, you can't have one without the other.

The only way the flux from the magnet will move is IF there is energy being output on the coil. A changed permeability is a direct result of output current in the coil, period, there is no other way that the flux is going to distort like that.

So, there is either energy being output on the coil OR the flux in the toroid IS NOT distorting, period...


Quote from: Low-Q on March 22, 2007, 05:45:47 PM
Wouldn't this generator provide more current and less voltage when loaded? The permeability of the iron will decrease if the coil is loaded, the magnetic field will follow the part of the toroid with no coil when the coil is sort cut, hence the missing back torque. At the same time no energy is generated in the coil. Hmmm... I think we again are walking on a dead end (or blind alley if you like).

Vidar

bitRAKE

Yeah, saturation seems to be the limiting factor. Would a powerful slow magnet be better than a fast weak magnet? Should the coil cover half the toroid or less?
Energy might not be FREE, but the universe has been building it up for billions of years - the fact that we exist means it is availble to us.

tao

As of right now, I feel the coil should cover up to an arc of 0-60 degrees...


Quote from: bitRAKE on March 22, 2007, 11:08:32 PM
Yeah, saturation seems to be the limiting factor. Would a powerful slow magnet be better than a fast weak magnet? Should the coil cover half the toroid or less?