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Simple to make Hilden-Brand style motor

Started by Nali2001, April 13, 2007, 03:40:34 PM

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Nali2001

Looking promising!
Nice to see you have a gain.
In my system I only noticed that magnets were actually doing anything, only when the mechanical load was very high (thus also the amp draw) or the magnets were over sized for the core.
And the most important part:
When the magnets were aiding in torque I noticed an real amp increase. So I got the magnets to add torque but I was also paying for it... Have you also noticed such a thing?

i_ron

Quote from: Nali2001 on December 28, 2010, 07:45:56 AM
Looking promising!
Nice to see you have a gain.
In my system I only noticed that magnets were actually doing anything, only when the mechanical load was very high (thus also the amp draw) or the magnets were over sized for the core.
And the most important part:
When the magnets were aiding in torque I noticed an real amp increase. So I got the magnets to add torque but I was also paying for it... Have you also noticed such a thing?

The draw with no magnets is 290 mA

The draw with the magnets is 270 mA

But then the draw is RPM dependent so understandable why the slower no magnet model draws a bit more.

Ron


i_ron


OK, I connected up the regauging coils to fire at the instant the main pulse ended. That is a 7555 one shot triggering on the falling edge of the main pulse.

This worked... after a fashion but to get max RPM I had to extend this regauging pulse to practically the entire blank period between main firing pulses. This gave me 120 rpm.

But I felt this was "wasting power" having these coils on full time, right?

So tried just sending the collapse spike to the regauging coils. This seems to work quite well, and with a further refinement of a cap over the diode gave me 113 RPM  (for a draw of 300 plus mA)

Ron

i_ron

Quote from: i_ron on December 28, 2010, 12:30:42 PM
OK, I connected up the regauging coils

Ron

First pic... no diode or regauging switching... just a healthy spike

Second pic... diode to regauging coils

Third pic... diode and cap

Each division is 5 volts vertical and 20 mS horizontal, you can see the speed increase if you count the squares. Diode and cap seem to take most of the meat out of the collapse spike.

Ron

i_ron

Quote from: i_ron on December 28, 2010, 12:30:42 PM
OK, I connected up the regauging coils
Ron

It gets better.  This doesn't seem to be the generator that my Adam/kone/Bedini builds seem to be. This is more like a reluctance motor.

Background:

The rotor and coil are from the previous build of two years ago. The "regauging" coils are from an even earlier parallel path experiment.

The cores are of a new design. The old cores were more along the line of genesis with the magnet stack adjacent to the rotor. In this build I have extended the front of the core to facilitate mounting the regauging coils.

I had two 6 ohm coils and two 2 ohm coils. The vid and previous post show the 6 ohm coils (in series)

Now this is the best part... I have just changed over to the 2 (1.9) ohm coils and the spike "nearly" goes away, and it runs a couple of RPM faster!

Here it is at 116 RPM

Free from generator action and with the negative spike only marking every now and then....

Ron