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Simple to make Hilden-Brand style motor

Started by Nali2001, April 13, 2007, 03:40:34 PM

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i_ron

Quote from: LarryC on October 11, 2008, 09:35:56 AM
Thanks for asking. I had made those pictures a while back and forgot to specify another cut on the stator.
snip

Regards Larry
 

Excellent photography Larry, also. I see that they have been viewed 50 times so that must mean we
some interested people on the list.

It was the Genesis patent that really opened my eyes. Jack has this very basic shop (joke) and builds
these incredible motors, yet much is hidden and not explained too well. The Genesis patent supplies
a lot of the answers. So I have based my model more on the genesis and have found that the shorter
the flux path the better.

I had missed the fact that the list had been started a year and a half ago! So I do hope that this
revival will grow and that we continue to see Gyula, Tim and Wiz offering their expertize.

I did have great hopes for the solid state version. This was my first experiment with the lamination core... but sad to say it just showed only transformer action and the voltage was the same  with
the magnets in or out of the circuit.  But I did inadvertently make a Leedskalnin place holder!

Some of you have seen this but for the others....

Ron

 




LarryC

Quote from: i_ron on October 10, 2008, 10:51:51 AM
Hey I didn't mean to kill the new list with one post!!!

Comments, laughter, ridicule are all better than silence...

What do you think? Jack?, Nali? all?

Ron


Who da top killer now, I_Ron!

@All,

Ron has done a great job of generating information from his Franken lab and appreciate his efforts.

Anybody wanting more detail data, probably cost millions, can be found in another hybrid magnet motor patent.
Figure 26 is an excellent graph comparing magnet force generated for magnet size and current levels. The chart is explained in the patent. It will answer a lot of questions for any builders.

The graph from patent 6,369,479 is attached below.

Regards, Larry

Lol, Ron. I just noticed we crossed post and both talking about the same motor.

i_ron

Quote from: i_ron on October 12, 2008, 11:42:30 AM
snip
I did have great hopes for the solid state version. This was my first experiment with the lamination core... but sad to say it just showed only transformer action and the voltage was the same  with
the magnets in or out of the circuit.  snip

Ron


K, here is a picture to go with the above statement...

I made it a bit smaller to fit the page better too...

What kind of luck did you guys have? any results yet? what did I miss doing on mine?

Ron

Yes Larry, stop that... we don't want any cross posts on here, lol


nwman

i_ron,

Just for clarification, which is the primary and which is the secondary?

Tim

i_ron

Quote from: nwman on October 12, 2008, 04:30:38 PM
i_ron,

Just for clarification, which is the primary and which is the secondary?

Tim

The secondary is the coil on the top (C core)  The top is a c core instead of a bar, the dimensions are
not a good fit but I thought it would be "close enough" as a mule. I was pulsing about at about 25 to
80? hertz 50% duty cycle and only at 12 volts. I have built megs and the bulgarian meg but always
there seems to be part of the equation missing....so open to suggestion...

Ron