Simple to make Hilden-Brand style motor

[wizkycho]

Reading Your mail again

Coil rises resistance - to make flux --> more energy needed.
Permanent magnet flux is free

don't mix coil(not free flux) and permanent magnet (free flux - no money currency involved)

is this the point in error ?

Wiz

[Nali2001]

Wow easy there Wiz, no need to go against one other here.

I must say that I am interested in:

"But it doesn't really show anything because they never compared the forced to a setup using the same
number of turns on twice the coil area. When doing this you will notice that you get the same force from
this as compared to using a permanent magnet and half the coil size."

I must say that in all my tests I was blind for this simple test. But there might be something to it.
One must ask himself does it really take more power to keep 0.5 kg of steel magnetized versus 2kg of steel. With the same power input and field strength... It might be so that in practice it does not matter how much steel is inside the coil it will not cost more to keep more steel saturated/magnetized. On thing though, I do think that the initial magnetizing pulse, or in other words the process of 'aligning the domains' costs less if less steel in the coil. But once aligned I doubt that more steel cause an amp draw increase.

[Ergo]

@wizkycho
I getting tired of you bad behavior, wizkycho.
Why do you get mad when your told that something already have been tested and found not working?
Can't you take a lesson in physics or do you have to be both blind and stupid to hang around here?
I'm neither blind, stupid or uneducated but I still hope there will be free energy invented soon.

I just told you about some true facts but then you won't accept it and start yelling.
Why don't you build two valves just like I described and see the outcome for yourself.

[i_ron]

@wizkycho
I getting tired of you bad behavior, wizkycho.
Why do you get mad when your told that something already have been tested and found not working?
Can't you take a lesson in physics or do you have to be both blind and stupid to hang around here?
I'm neither blind, stupid or uneducated but I still hope there will be free energy invented soon.

I just told you about some true facts but then you won't accept it and start yelling.
Why don't you build two valves just like I described and see the outcome for yourself.

Show us your pictures and post your results... then I'll believe you

Field strength is equal to number of turns, permittivity of the core and current.

If you double the core size you have doubled the coil size. For the same number of turns the resistance is doubled, to flow the same number of amps you must double the voltage. If you
double the voltage you have doubled the input. Doubling the core size will reduce the permittivity
but will maybe only double the field strength for double the input... sorry, your argument does not
make any sense.

I am with wizkycho.

Ron

[i_ron]

hi all !
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@ i-ron

both wonderfull experiments that more and more prove that magnetic transistor (amplification of flux at output) is real thing.
hopefully Main Stream "science" will be wise enough and recognize this breakthrough. with some Nobel prizes to experimenters here.
I mean it - seriously. after that it can be called science again.

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many many thanks

Wiz

More experimenters join us

To Infinity - - - and then another mile !

Whiz,

Thank you for you vote of confidence!

I guess we had better not tell QM Power and Genesis that their motors don't work!
Poor ergo, what an unproductive life.... you made the right call there.

Kind regards,

Ron