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Overunity Machines Forum



Simple to make Hilden-Brand style motor

Started by Nali2001, April 13, 2007, 03:40:34 PM

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nwman

Please let me know if I should be talking about this in another topic than this but I had a late night thought. If the Flynn motor idea actually works [?] then why couldn't you just take out the rotor and substitute in a solid core /  collection coil? If I am correct I thought the Flynn motor claims to run off AC? Its just a brain fart but I thought I would throw it out there.

Tim

Ergo

Quote from: i_ron on October 13, 2008, 12:10:45 AM
It might be that the motor is the "only" way to extract the power, as double coils in the same
flux loop seem to have their problems...

I know you guys don't want to hear this (the truth is painful) but a magnet boosted transformer can never work any good.
It will have even worse efficiency than any regular transformer.
Why is this so.

Well, it's simply that any magnet inserted into a transformer circuit will shift the B/H working curve of the ferromagnetic material.
It might seem like you get four times the output from the device in static mode but you actually only get the same out as if you had
used twice the core area for the coil and scrapped the magnet.
In dynamic mode you repeatedly have to force the shifted B/H curve back past zero all the way to the other end. This takes just as much
power as you gained by inserting the magnet... But wait....it gets even worse. When you insert a powerful neodymium into the transformer
you actually force the material close to saturation when switching it on/off and this causes a lot of material loss on every pulse repetition.
The losses is a lot higher than a regular transformer that is working safe away from being saturated.
There you have it. A magnet boosted transformer will always perform lesser than a regular transformer. No BS.

Regarding the Hilden-Brand motor there is still no reports other than his own words on overunity. And these reports changes from day to day.
A while ago he told everybody that it took 1x1" magnet to reach overunity. Now he's telling us it takes 2x2" magnets.
Far back in the past it just took small 0.5" magnets to reach overunity in his early machines. http://keelynet.com/energy/hildenbrand.htm
Because of these irregularities in his reports I strongly believe he is not telling ut the whole truth or perhaps he's just a case of self-deception.

A while ago a gent here built a small Hilden-Brand motor and posted several very good videos on his tests.
He could not see any overunity going on. He tried both small and larger magnets at various speeds and loads at no success.
I believe this is telling us the truth about Hilden-Brands motors.

But I do encourage you to build a fine motor to really see if there is any overunity to collect, because we will never see a report from Hilden-Brand.

altium

Hi all,
I want to ask something important:  What is results from these experiments, I mean COP.

Input electrical power vs output mechanical power?

Can this motor drive a generator, who feeding same motor?

Ergo

Quote from: altium on October 13, 2008, 05:12:06 AM
What is results from these experiments, I mean COP.

Zero COP = No Overunity.

Nali2001

"same flux loop" is the key point here in my opinion.

Quote from: i_ron on October 13, 2008, 12:10:45 AM
Very well thought out and expressed. And very true, as far as my knowledge has progressed to date.

It might be that the motor is the "only" way to extract the power, as double coils in the same
flux loop seem to have their problems...

Ron