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Overunity Machines Forum



Simple to make Hilden-Brand style motor

Started by Nali2001, April 13, 2007, 03:40:34 PM

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i_ron

Quote from: Omnibus on December 21, 2010, 10:55:31 PM
@i_ron,

How do you mean "in memory of ..."?

Omni,

Jack passed away on March 10th, 2009

I mention his work with great admiration and respect.

Take Care,

Ron P


Omnibus

Quote from: i_ron on December 21, 2010, 11:25:05 PM
Omni,

Jack passed away on March 10th, 2009

I mention his work with great admiration and respect.

Take Care,

Ron P

I'm really, really sorry to hear that. He was one of the best OU researchers around. It's so sad to lose such a fine person. I didn't participate in the discussions about his rig but I was following them regularly and I remember there was someone who made an electronic control system for him. Whatever happened to that project and where are now the machines Jack made?

i_ron

Quote from: Omnibus on December 21, 2010, 11:43:21 PM
I'm really, really sorry to hear that. He was one of the best OU researchers around. It's so sad to lose such a fine person. I didn't participate in the discussions about his rig but I was following them regularly and I remember there was someone who made an electronic control system for him. Whatever happened to that project and where are now the machines Jack made?

omni,

I believe that was honk. However I believe that led to a falling out as Jack thought the controller was unusable. As to the machines, I have no idea?

Ron P




Nali2001

Hi Ron!
Good demo.
Indeed a good way to release a Leedskalnin PPMH.

But I am not so sure it this really is needed for a Hidenbrand or Genesis valve.
The way I see it, it all depends on the core material. The PPMH can only be made with steel that tends to retain its magnetism when a good looped path is provided, more or less turning it in a permanent magnet after the input is energized. Much like the hard steel horseshoe magnets in the time before ferrite magnets were invited. You had to keep an steel bar at the open ends of the magnet to prevents its demagnetization.

Here is a Hildenbrand type valve that does not leak and releases the bar once power is turned off. Airgap is 0.06mm. Input about 1 watt, the core is grain aligned tape wound silicon steel with square HB characteristics:
http://home.planet.nl/~sintt000/MagnetExtraPower.wmv

People have seen it already before but here are some video tests of core steels:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHbQXnXK6Xc

Anyway this is my take on this.
The right core type in the right place can make all the difference in the world.


lwh

Quote from: Omnibus on December 21, 2010, 11:43:21 PM
...I remember there was someone who made an electronic control system for him. Whatever happened to that project and where are now the machines Jack made?

The controller's kept burning out as far as I can remember.  It was too big an ask IMO to try and make a controller for someone else, in another country, to apply to a machine you'd never actually seen.  I think Honk tried as best he could, putting together what he thought should work, but it's easy to imagine the communication problems there would have been, on top of the technical problems.  Jack's last mention of the controller/s was that it/they had been a waste of time.  But that was coming from someone firmly committed to going down the patent route, so it was a bit rough of him to accuse someone else of wasting time, or so I thought anyway.

As for the machines Jack made, he did mention once that he had one secured in a bank vault somewhere and that it and other information would be released to the public should anything happen to him.  So much for that plan.  I guess he didn't have it set up as well as he thought, or someone intervened.  From other things he said along the way, it was clear his children and other relatives weren't interested in continuing on with his projects.  I'm imagining they either didn't understand what it was he was doing, or they knew better than all of us the obstacles Jack had still to overcome, and saw no point in passing on the machines and related information.  And as far as I know, no-one actually asked, or even tried to get hold of the devices, until it was too late and all contact with Jack's relatives had stopped.

On top of all this, Jack did write at one point that he thought he had been poisoned by the two university researchers who had visited him one time to see his machines (and who the university later denied knowing anything about), and that it was that poisoning that had led to his subsequent terminal illness.  If that was the case, they could well have cleaned up and taken everything after Jack's death too.  I have no idea about the truth of any of that, but to even consider it a possibility automatically leads me to wondering just who Jack's 'investors' were and what role they've actually played in all of this.  Even if they were real and legitimate, it's possible they've ended up with all that was made and done with the money they put in.

At the end of the day, it seems to me Jack was his own worst enemy.  I always thought he was a decent enough guy, and he did seem to be more committed than most to actually trying to get a 'free energy' device up and going.  But there was a lot of self-contradictory information and behaviour mixed in with it all too, combined with some really poor communication skills, that made it difficult for anyone to really know what was what in regards to what he'd actually done.

At least he made more people aware of the fundamental concepts behind the particular kind of magnetic switching he claimed to be using.  And he at least partly inspired some people to successfully replicate the Radus Boots type of magnetic switching units he referred to.

And again, pardon my ignorance, but I still don't know why someone doesn't use that effect in conjunction with a gravity-assisted wheel to overcome the sticky spot in some kind of perpetual motion design.  Just how hard is it to turn some kind of dynamo or something that can generate enough electricity to switch the magnets when required?  I know I could do the research myself, but it's almost too basic a question to find an answer for by looking around online, and I can't believe the answer could be so obvious, even though Jack himself did mention he had made up a similar working device once.