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Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU

Started by otto, April 17, 2007, 02:32:36 AM

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Earl

Hi devilzangel,

there is no such thing as superconductors.
There are superconductors over certain temperature ranges.
The word superconductor has no meaning except when linked to temperature.

However, should the plates in the TPU be made of AL or AL/Mg the plate temperatures are very high due to high eddy-current heating.  Hot AL/Mg or AL is never a superconductor.  The plates get so hot, the TPU must be turned off after 30 minutes of load.  Talk of superconductivity is nonsense, in my opinion.

Regards, Earl

Quote from: devilzangel on June 07, 2007, 02:37:40 AM
Quote from: OttoIn the big 15" TPU AlMn (Aluminium Manganese alloy) [not pure Aluminum] has to be used, in order to boost the extractable energy level!!!!

please elaborate on how u know this. Why aluminum or AL MN alloy for that matter?

such alloys are shown to have superconductive properties.
Quote from: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel5/77/31006/01439592.pdfThe authors present tunneling results for junctions comprising Mn doped Al films produced by sputter deposition, with Mn concentrations in the range of 0-5000 ppm. Our results for S'/I/S', S'/I/S, and N/I/S junctions demonstrate that Al-Mn alloys can serve both as superconductors with critical temperatures reduced from that of Al and as normal metals. The authors find Al-Mn in this doping range to be otherwise identical to pure Al in terms of its BCS-like tunnel characteristics (for superconductors) and its ability to produce high-quality tunnel barriers.

Quote from: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1974PhRvB..10..278KNeutron scattering studies were performed on an Al-0.5-at.%-Mn dilute alloy at T=80 ?K and T=300 ?K sample temperatures. The incoherent magnetic scattering cross section was measured using the Dubna pulsed reactor as a function of in-going neutron energy, at four scattering angles. The results show a nonzero magnetic moment on the Mn sites and a ξ~6 ? radius oppositely polarized electron cloud around these atoms.

devilzangel
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Earl

Rich,

I recently posted a redrawn version of Otto's circuit on the German Otto's Nachbau thread (page 31) http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1848.msg33925.html#msg33925 in which I changed the 240 degrees to 270 degrees.  Otto has made no comments on my GIF drawing until now.  I think the 240 degrees is an error.

Regards, Earl

Quote from: gn0stik on June 06, 2007, 08:09:09 PM
updated document per otto's request.

please review it otto.

Also, I was looking for that cross section cut out pic of the TPU.

if anyone has anything else that I missed please let me know.

Rich
"It is through science that we prove, but through intuition that we discover." - H. Poincare

"Most of all, start every day asking yourself what you will do today to make the world a better place to live in."  Mark Snoswell

"As we look ahead, we have an expression in Shell, which we like to use, and that is just as the Stone Age did not end for the lack of rocks, the oil and gas age will not end for the lack oil and gas, but rather technology will move us forward." John Hofmeister, president Shell Oil Company

Earl

Rich,

I think I had 4 coils in my head when I thought 270 degrees.  270 is correct for 4 coils, but not for three coils.  For three coils 240 degrees is correct.  I was looking at Otto's 3 coil device and had the open TPU in my head.

That said, in Otto's 3 coil device, unless there is a fixed relationship of 120 degree electrical phase shift between each coil, there will not be a rotating magnetic field.  Feeding various random frequencies into coils physically spaced at 120 degrees will NOT produce a rotating field.

At this moment I can not say whether SM's device needs a classical rotating magnetic field or not.  It could be possible that only radiant events are produced and that these are not dependent on any rotating magnetic field.

Regards, Earl
"It is through science that we prove, but through intuition that we discover." - H. Poincare

"Most of all, start every day asking yourself what you will do today to make the world a better place to live in."  Mark Snoswell

"As we look ahead, we have an expression in Shell, which we like to use, and that is just as the Stone Age did not end for the lack of rocks, the oil and gas age will not end for the lack oil and gas, but rather technology will move us forward." John Hofmeister, president Shell Oil Company

devilzangel

I do agree to what you r saying .. as the quote stated "critical temperature"

however, SM mentions the electrons moving freely .. (due to removal of flux.) .. thus allowing speeds close to the speed of light (or maybe beyond) .. does that not constitute superconductivity?

devilzangel
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Quote from: Earl on June 07, 2007, 04:03:54 AM
Hi devilzangel,

there is no such thing as superconductors.
There are superconductors over certain temperature ranges.
The word superconductor has no meaning except when linked to temperature.

However, should the plates in the TPU be made of AL or AL/Mg the plate temperatures are very high due to high eddy-current heating.  Hot AL/Mg or AL is never a superconductor.  The plates get so hot, the TPU must be turned off after 30 minutes of load.  Talk of superconductivity is nonsense, in my opinion.

Regards, Earl

Earl

NO, it does not contitute superconductivity.

Quote from: devilzangel on June 07, 2007, 04:57:58 AM
I do agree to what you r saying .. as the quote stated "critical temperature"

however, SM mentions the electrons moving freely .. (due to removal of flux.) .. thus allowing speeds close to the speed of light (or maybe beyond) .. does that not constitute superconductivity?

devilzangel
..

Quote from: Earl on June 07, 2007, 04:03:54 AM
Hi devilzangel,

there is no such thing as superconductors.
There are superconductors over certain temperature ranges.
The word superconductor has no meaning except when linked to temperature.

However, should the plates in the TPU be made of AL or AL/Mg the plate temperatures are very high due to high eddy-current heating.  Hot AL/Mg or AL is never a superconductor.  The plates get so hot, the TPU must be turned off after 30 minutes of load.  Talk of superconductivity is nonsense, in my opinion.

Regards, Earl
"It is through science that we prove, but through intuition that we discover." - H. Poincare

"Most of all, start every day asking yourself what you will do today to make the world a better place to live in."  Mark Snoswell

"As we look ahead, we have an expression in Shell, which we like to use, and that is just as the Stone Age did not end for the lack of rocks, the oil and gas age will not end for the lack oil and gas, but rather technology will move us forward." John Hofmeister, president Shell Oil Company