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Cheap Wind-Farming

Started by lancaIV, April 18, 2007, 10:30:32 AM

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lancaIV


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130214&CC=US&NR=2013038069A1&KC=A1

[0041] When coaxial inversion occurs between the housing main body 11 and the coil body 31 housed thereinside as stated above, providing that the velocity V2 (rotating velocity) attained when either the flux linkage magnets or the coil body is rotated while the other is fixed is "1," the relative velocity V1 between the first and second flux linkage magnets 21, 22 within the housing main body 11 and the coil portion 32 within the coil body 31 is twice the same, "2" (V1=2V2). Consequently, a generated power output as large as "4 times" the generated power output obtained when either the flux linkage magnets or the coil body is rotated while the other is fixed can be realized at the coil portion 32 within the coil body 31. Namely, the disk-shaped coaxial inversion generator 1 ensuring strikingly large generated power output (that is, high conversion efficiency from natural energy to electric power) can be realized.

http://www.rexresearch.com/flynn/flynn.htm   
http://www.rexresearch.com/flynn/Ppfigure3.gif



# Reply5 


                       Let's not forget that the energy of the wind increases with the cube of its speed and hence the force   


                                                   twice the speed = 2³ the force = 8 times the force

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19840807&CC=US&NR=4464095A&KC=A


What happens when                 speed
                                         relative velocity
                                              frequency
                                                rpm

      is doubled : force ?                                 is halfed : force ?












generator
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20121011&CC=US&NR=2012256422A1&KC=A1


motor
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19780418&CC=US&NR=4085355A&KC=A

lancaIV

I take an industrial product as model for a wind-chamber costs and economy calculation :


https://horeca-pos.en.alibaba.com/productgrouplist-820900806-3/CP_3_0.html?filterSimilar=true&filter=null


              440 Euros ,fob factory,for 110 Kg etrike means 4 Euros/Kg product ,included 1x electric motor


the wind-chamber numbers :


https://patents.justia.com/patent/20080061559


https://web.archive.org/web/20110602000831/http://www.airpower.co.il/

https://web.archive.org/web/20110817174850if_/http://www.airpower.co.il/PRODUCTS.htm

10 KW output , weight 200 Kg , 1x electric motor + 1x electric generator


                  200 Kg x 4 Euros = 800 Euros + ? RPM generator =


                 800 Euros + 700 Euros 750 RPM Schiller generator http://www.schillergy.com/pdf/schiller-energy.pdf


                = 1500 Euros basic equipment costs


a. the web-site from 2003 ,b. given C.O.P. 3x ,c.   3,4 US$cents/KWh electricity generation costs by 10 000 US$/10 KW investment


https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/modeling/how-to-calculate-capex-formula/


1.assumption : 2003 capital tax calculator 10%,now 2021 5%


2.assumption : instead 10 000 US$ investment costs lowered to 3000 Euros/10 KW,low over-head margins


3.asssumption: the C.O.P. 3 increaseable to C.O.P. 5x by motor and generator rewinding/improvement




3,4 US$cents x 3000/10 000 US$ = 1,02 US$cents/KWh


                                 lower capital tax and higher C.O.P. gain


                                                 < 1,0   US$cent or 1 Euro-cent /KWh

                                                          Euro/US$ pari estimation


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://politik.pege.org/2004-kernfusion/stromkosten.htm


https://overunity.com/18887/fusion-reactor-to-generate-more-energy-than-required-to-run-it/msg558815/#new


                                  ;D  11 cents per kWh without financing costs  ;D 


                         the ITER and other Tokamacs 900 % too expensive related conventional C.O.P>1 circuits


                         in german : ABM for ex-nuclear-industry and finance system , 25 Billions contract for 2,5 Billions investment worth


                                                                   900% "Establishment" margin

lancaIV

https://overunity.com/18946/lueling-magnet-motor-by-ufopolitics/msg564198/#new                        knovos
It's really going in the direction of advanced engineering, I fully understand the need for this, eventually, we want to build a machine that will run for 24-7 months and only stop for maintenance. I think this is all too difficult for the average maker. My hopes were based on a simpler solution and 3D printing everything except for some bearings, shafts, nuts, and bolts. The big advantage of this is that the files can be shared worldwide and can be put together by someone who does not have a high technical level. Let me continue with that version. So the less reliable plastic version, but a device that works. If only something like this can be achieved then each subsequent version will get better. When it comes to 3D printing, it is impossible to print plastic parts similar to those made in metal. I have patience. Let's hope more people join in and use their engineering skills to make as many of these machines as possible.

                                         " the 1 US$/barrel( ~ 1600 KWh) equivalent clean electricity explorator "

                       we want to build a machine that will run for 24-7 months and only stop for maintenance.

From https://web.archive.org/web/20110817174916if_/http://www.airpower.co.il/PHYSICS1.htm
                                              and  https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9318

                                                     https://overunity.com/10640/more-efficient-wind-mill/ information

                             airpower given " 3 cents per Kilo-Watt-Hour " x 1600 KWh (= barrel) = 48 US$
                                                            1 US$/48 US$
                            "  David against Gol(iath) "  or " David with Gol(iath) "

                        https://overunity.com/19042/canadian-trucker-rally/120/  Reply #122                   


   Men productivity, U.N. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Labour_Organization conditionized ,handcraft :
                                                                                  100% and 1/1 price view

                       C.N.C.-bot productivity ,motor-craft,non stop,high precision :                                                                       

                                                                                5000% and 1/50 human price view

              48 US$/( 5000 %/100 %) = a. < 1 US$ ?  b. >  1 US$  ? per 1600 KWh oil-barrel equivalent electricity

                                                                   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RepRap_project global society

BAYER https://www.plasticstoday.com/automotive-future-looks-bright-plasticsmetal-composites
M.I.T. https://scitechdaily.com/mit-engineers-create-the-impossible-new-material-that-is-stronger-than-steel-and-as-light-as-plastic/
                                                   https://www.sciencealert.com/new-super-wood-stronger-than-steel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood-plastic_composite         surplus plastics reuse

                                                    what is thinkable becomes possible becomes real

                                                                       my private philosophy

                                                                       applied mnemo technics

https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/TRIZ?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Engpasskonzentrierte_Strategie?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Kaizen?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Neuro-Linguistisches_Programmieren?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
                                                       strategical management for top quality results
                                                                           In search of excellence

                                                                                PERFEKTION

lancaIV

                                          from mnemo technics to applied social science :
                                                                   Germany,-2021

electricity selling costs

https://www-bmwi-de.translate.goog/Redaktion/DE/Artikel/Energie/strompreise-bestandteile.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

https://de-statista-com.translate.goog/statistik/daten/studie/154902/umfrage/strompreise-fuer-industrie-und-gewerbe-seit-2006/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
electricity production costs

https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Stromgestehungskosten?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
                  https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Stromgestehungskosten_Deutschland_2018.png
                                                           average 6 Eurocents/KWh



                                            here focus on wind force converting generator
https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/content/dam/ise/de/documents/publications/studies/DE2018_ISE_Studie_Stromgestehungskosten_Erneuerbare_Energien.pdf
The electricity generation costs of onshore wind turbines (specific System costs of 1500 to 2000 EUR/kW) per year 2018 between 3.99 and 8.23 €cents/kWh.

In spite of higher average full load hours of up to 4500 hours a year, offshore wind turbines record just under 7.49 to 13.79 €cent/kWh significantly higher electricity generation costs than onshore wind turbines

                                                         taking the onshore wind turbine average :                                          1750 EUR/KW installation costs and 6 EUR cents/KWh generation
                                            assumption : 27 % full-hour conversion= efficiency per annum


                                  Atmospheric electricity generator ( to differ from Atmospheric water generator,AWG )
                            https://web.archive.org/web/20110817174916if_/http://www.airpower.co.il/PHYSICS1.htm
                                                                        10 KW model

                                       1000 US$/KW installation and 3 US$cents/KWh generation costs
                                           assumption : by given C.O.P. 3 ~ 66% permanent efficiency


   with attention EUR/US$ convergence and 1000 US$/1750 EUR per KW and 27%/66% work performance efficiency difference
                                                       3 US$cents/KWh are plausibel,for 2004 CAPEX calculation for selling price base !
The production costs from such an "Atmospheric electricity generator " we can estimate by aveurope.net "Energy converter" prototyping
model costs :                                                     
                                                                         with 375 US$/KW

                                                           airpower 3 US$cents/KWh x 375(aveurope)/1000(airpower) =

                                                                    actually 1 EUR cent/KWh

                                       1 Euro/1600 KWh (~ barrel/Fass) = 0,0625 Eurocent/KWh   or  0,000625 EUR/KWh

                                     10 EUR/1600 KWh                          = 0,6250  Eurocent/KWh  or  0,006250 EUR/KWh

                                   100 EUR/1600 KWh                          = 6,250  Eurocents/KWh  or  0,062500 EUR/KWh



                    http://www.anfre.com/global-aluminium-smelters-production-costs-on-decline/
Rio Tinto Alcan has similar production costs, thanks to low cost smelters in Canada, powered also by low cost hydro power, with the Kitimat smelter having the lowest power tariff in the world (below US$ 6 /MWh), while its other Canadian smelters pay less than US$ 7 / MWh.                   
                               6 US$/1000 KWh up to 7 US$/1000 KWh =  0,6 US$/KWh up to 0,7 US$/KWh
                   
                                                                            compared

     FIRST TARGET            10 EUR/1600 KWh                                 = 0,6250  Eurocent/KWh

                                             as :  Global clean renewable power tariff

                   375 US$/KW aveurope prototype with compareable airpower 10 KW/200 Kg standart
                  200 Kg : 80 Kg generator and 10 Kg motor and 110 Kg blade/chamber weight

                 ( 80 Kg + 10 Kg ) x Kg/32,5 US$ motor/generator calculation (reference alibaba offer)

                + (110 Kg x 7,5 US$ ) here heatpumps/ic-gensets/ JinPeng etrike material transformation costs max. market price mixing per Kg
                = 2925 US$ motor and generator + 825 US$ blade/chamber = 3750 US$/10 KW or 375 US$/KW

                 80 Kg generator and 10 Kg motor conventional changing to HTS coil 16 Kg generator and 2 Kg HTS coil motor
                and 110 Kg blade/chamber with an 25 Kg "transmission" alternative

               
                later :

                 permanent magnet motor and generator to pm-less motor and pm-less generator
                iron core to plastics/air core               Final target : 1 Euro/1600 KWh (~ barrel/Fass) = 0,0625 Eurocent/KWh   or  0,000625 EUR/KWh 
                                                                               EUGENICS                               
          https://techconnectworld.com/World2017/a.php?i=1125                   
          https://geospatial.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83476d35153ef022ad3c0d118200b-800wi         
        40 US$/KW costs / 8766 hours /11 years ~  0,0415 US$cent/KWh or 0,000415 US$/KWh, costs based       
                                      / 0,325 as absolute market gross selling price minimum =
                                                                0,13 US$cent/KWh selling price based     
                                                                         in competition           
      Final target : 1 Euro/1600 KWh (~ barrel/Fass) = 0,0625 Eurocent/KWh   or  0,000625 EUR/KWh
                           step by step from international reflation to international deflation ,work in progress      A refreshing weekend wishing   
  OCWL 
  p.s. : https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Minimumgesetz?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

minimum an Wissen : Maxwellsche Gleichungen und Daemon
                                    Laplacesche Operatoren und   Daemon

  Da die Maxwellsche Gleichungsreihe der Lorentztransformation entspricht /wiederspiegelt :   Lorentzsche Daemon ?!                                                                           
                                                   Lorentzkraft , 3 Finger Regeln, Lenz und Fleming                                                     
                                                                          a. positive  Materie Kreislauf                     
                                                                               b. negative Materie Kreislauf     
         
         
                                                        auch genannt als Pendant zu Teilchen die Antiteilchen                                       
                                                            https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimaterie


                                                      EMK-Kreislauf und TD-Kreislauf :

                                               https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13727                 
                                              https://uspto.report/patent/app/20180340713                   
                                                             2018-11-29 priority date

                                               https://patents.justia.com/patent/20140138236         
             
                                                           May 24, 2012 priority date       

                                               ATMOSPHERIC WATER GENERATOR SYSTEM

One aspect of the design includes generation of electricity via a turbine configured to be actuated by an increase in gas pressure from heat transfer fluid in a continuous heat transfer fluid system as it exits the evaporator.


                                                           der Daemon steckt im Detail

                                                                   Lorentz Anti-/Kraft                               

                                 https://www.lernhelfer.de/sites/default/files/lexicon/image/BWS-PHY2-0396-06.gif

lancaIV

                                                            I become now bi :o ,bi-lingual  ::) ;)

                                                                  Wind,Wind  das himmlische Kind
                                                     ion-
                                             graviton-
                                           magneton-
                                              Anti-ion-
                                     anti-graviton-
                                   anti-magneton-


                         DNA/RNA-wind to Spiral/Vortex to operation/opera :
                         JHS,opus deii  Schoepfung-Werk Gottes   saekular : Schoepfungswerk des Geistes; creare,Creativitaet



                         Mathematik = Geistes-Wissenschaft,gesamt ; Scientia/Science
                         Mathematik,nicht nur arithmetisches Uebersetzungsmittel,klassische algebra und geometria

                        Koerper,(Verstand),Geist,(Seele),Libido            VERNUNFT,latin : ratio ,english  reazon,good sense

                             
                        VERNUNFT,good sense,ratio zu Gunsten .....

                        DNA/RNA-experimente ,bezueglich Emotion und Motivation,eines Gesamtkoepers :

                       C.G.Jung : Mariendorf Feld-Test ,


                       Francis Galton " Sym-/Em-pathie-Selbstprogrammierung" und Wirkungsexperiment
                       https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Bewusstseinszustand?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp



                       Dr. Kazumi Masaki Theta-Wellen-Forschung (Brain-waves )



                       https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Hypnose?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
                      " Dr.h.c. med. Quacksalber"  Heilsversprechen versus militaer-strategische Labor-/Feld-Abeitsergebnisse

                       https://www-deutschlandfunkkultur-de.translate.goog/rhythmen-im-gehirn-die-erforschung-der-hirnwellen-100.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
                     Serious R&D results and   literaric "propaganda" : " A perfect mind in 10 days " to differ ,like "God created the World in 7 days"

                    Ein Fall (Geschehnis,Sturz) , Einfall(Gedanke,Idee)

                   Ein Dogma,ein Dox     ein Anti-Dogma,ein Para-Dox(on)

            ........................
         Aus der Komplexitaetsanalytik zur Simplizitaet,
         der einfachen Erkenntnis durch GRUNDLAGE (Basis,Fundament)-Erforschung (Re-/Search) und deren ANWENDUNG und progressiven

        (Weiter-)-Entwicklung
       in DE fuer Grundlagenerforschung : Max-Planck-Institute-Verbund
                fuer Grundlagen Anwendungs-Erforschung : Fraunhofer-Institute-Verbund
               daneben Helmholtz-/Steinbeis- und private Forschungsinstitute wie die eines Reinhold Ficht


           https://www-vernunftkraft-de.translate.goog/dreisatz/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp


               
                                                     simple wind/-ing conversion examples/Beispiele
                                                   about simplest possible rotoverter loop concepts
                                                  for physical " closed loop " demonstration
                                                   min./max. input/output unimportant, C.O.P./E.E.R. > 1    q.e.d.-case prototyping
                                                   q.e.d. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q.E.D.



Darstellung/Mosaic  : 

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=3048277A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19820715&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20031204&CC=US&NR=2003222512A1&KC=A1#
as shaft drive,with/-out belt   : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w5Ol05blLE
for relative simple rotation to electric energy conversion :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990930&CC=DE&NR=19741256A1&KC=A1#

"Freie Energie/z.B. als Elektrizitaet" und  [Nearly Zero-/Net Zero-/Zero-(off-grid/in situ generation] Energie- E.U.-Programm/U.N.-Programm

2022 p.C. :

Artikel,wo ueber eine neue Erkenntnis bezueglich des Erdkerns berichtet wird ,zu auesserem Kern N/P-Magnetpol nun ein Kern-im-Kern  mit W/O Orientierung ( taegliche Erddrehung/jaehrliche Erd-/Sonnen-Drehung) beobachtet wurde


zudem war in einem Artikel zu lesen :
Pakistan,geotektonische Lage ?!, die dortige aquifere Wasserentnahme in der Menge zu einer planetarischen ,physikalisch erfassbaren,Veraenderung (Albedo !) fuehrte

                                                               

Murcia/Valencia,Wassergericht,organisierte Wasserverteilung
https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wassergericht_von_Valencia?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

"Welt" ,Energie-/Elektrizitaets-Gericht, organisierte - vernunftbezogene Rationierung per capita/sqkm - Verteilung ?!

Inklusive freiwillige Selbsterzeugungs-/Konsum-Menge-Beschraenkung
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000-Watt-Gesellschaft


                                                   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-flKGPW9QCw
                                                  Planet Erde = A ,Planet Erde II (Plan B) in Aussicht ?


                                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO8NSL5Wyeg
                                               Unterschied ,zu Ihm ? Je pense active/passive,24/365
                                                 GUT UND BOESE ERFAHREND,VERINNERLICHEND
                                                       Goettliche Komik-Tragik namens Leben


                                                         Suizid ?  :-\ ,OMD ,Ohne aeussere Mittel ?  :o
                                                          " Die Macht ihres (Unter-)Bewusstsein/-s "

                                              Neuronal Motorik Programming : heart beat in Pulses/Minute up/down meditation
                                                                 (Winter-)Schlaf          : 1 beat/minute
                                                                     Ewige Schlaf          : 0 beat/minute


                               Ueber eigenes Leben - und - ,ausserordentlich :  vorgezogenen Selbst-,Tod-  herrschen !
                                         Die Schwaeche der Natur mit der eigenen Schwaeche verbinden - Symbiose
                                               https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prinzip_des_geringsten_Aufwandes

                                                                      Studieren ist Unterhaltung,EINSICHT         

  ueber die kosmische Komischkeit und der individuellen Eigen-SCHWAECHENUEBERTUENCHUNGS- Kosmetik

                                                                 In search of perfect Unperfection
                                                                 In search of certain Uncertainty
       

                                                              Each day,up to the last, a new day


    Liebe geht ueber den Magen,dachte sich die Schwarze Witwe und frasz genuesslich,nach Arbeits-Akt,mit Vergnuegen ......  8)
                                         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwewijOin68

   Die Wueste lebt                  Das Wueste in uns lebt               und                            pflanzt sich              fort,Tschau