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EXACT MECHANISM OF THE OVERUNITY GAIN IN THE TPU

Started by Bruce_TPU, April 24, 2007, 08:50:25 PM

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Grumpy

#5
April 25, 2007, 12:31:29 AM
btentzer,

SM stated once that "tao" had the secret, which was to create pulses and stop them before they reached the end of the control coil - capturing the resulting radiant energy in the collector coil.  Maybe you missed that...

Theories are just thoughts and words until proven.  

There are three types of fields in/around that ring - a torsion (time) field, a electric field, and a magnetic field.  Manipulation of two - manfests as the third.  A combination of the electric field and the magnetic field can be made to manifest as a torsion field and this torsion field will in turn react with one or the other to create the third.  This torsion field is difficult to detect except when it reacts with one of the other two fields.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

Bruce_TPU

#6
April 25, 2007, 12:42:04 AM
 :-X
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

bob.rennips

#7
April 25, 2007, 06:22:32 AM
Quote from: btentzer on April 24, 2007, 08:50:25 PM
I will attempt to not over simplify this for everyone.  You can read SM's post in light of these things and perhaps you will come to the same conclusion.

1.)  SM said that the Earth's magnet field was the reason, cause of the "Kick" or spike at the switching on and off of electrons hitting the surface of the wire.  This "Kick" is the addition for a microsecond of more electrons than there should be. 
2.)  He also stated that very interesting things can occur when you have two freq. together.  SM's kicks did not come from voltage but high FREQ. Actually, the worst kind, the kind with hash and spike and every awful thing (if you are a radio guy that is).
3.)  The TPU ONLY produces POWER (Volts time Amps = Watts) when the small Permanent Magnet is put in place.  This is why:
To produce electricity as we know today, either magnets rotate around wires, or wires rotate around magnet(s). 
SM said "Let me give you something to think about...
If you had a short wire and you moved a magnet across it you would always have limited POTENTIAL because the length of wire was so short.  OK now what if we increase the length of the wire to many miles in length even with a very WEAK MAGNETIC field moving across the wire you still have a much greater potential flow of power available.  If we put it into a perspective of power per inch it may be easier to understand.  If you have a small magnetic field moving across a wire twelve inches long it can generate an electron flow equal to lets say one millivolt per inch.  If you move the magnet twelve inches at the same speed you get 12 millivolts moving a magnet across it.  If you have a wire 1000 feet long and you move the same small magnetic field across the length of it you can create much more voltage potential perhaps 12,000 millivolts lets say.  So you have managed to generate a significant amount of electric power with a WEAK magnetic force....."
     He goes on with much more.  Let me break it down for you.

Are we moving the SMALL PERMANENT MAGNET on the TPU?  NO
Are we moving the wires on the TPU?  NO
SO WHAT IS MOVING?  THE ELECTRONS!

WHAT IS CURRENT?  THE MOVEMENT OF ELECTRONS THROUGH A MAGNETIC FIELD.  THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN CAUSED BY THE MAGNET IN PRIOR ART.  NOT WITH STEVE MARK'S TPU.  IT MOVES THE ELECTRONS ("KICKS" AND REVERSED FREQ. MEETING TOGETHER) THROUGH A WEAK MAGNETIC FIELD ESTABLISHED BY THE PERMANENT MAGNET.  WHEN THE MAGNET IS THERE THE MOVING ELECTRONS TURN TO CURRENT, WHEN IT IS REMOVED IT WINDS DOWN LIKE A TURBINE, UNTIL THE LAST OF THE ELECTRONS THAT PASSED THROUGH THE WEAK MAGNETIC FIELD EXIT.  REPLACE THE MAGNET AND THE MOVING ELECTRONS BECOME CURRENT ONCE AGAIN.

One more thought about needing the Controller designed, please:
I am trying to have everyone realize that the CONTROLLER is the key.  Once that is built and working, we will be able to figure out the wiring as we please. 

Let me give an analogy here.  If you showed a video to a group of scientist of a car moving on a road.  And they attempted to rebuild the car.  So they made the shell, look like what they had seen.  They put on tires, etc.  But it would not run.  WHY?  They were missing the engine (catalyst in SM's words!)  THE CONTROLLER IS THE ENGINE AND THE COILS ARE THE BODY.  Important, YES.  But without the engine it will not go!

Steve Mark, my hat is off to you.  You are a genius.

Regards,
Bruce

You say:
"WHAT IS CURRENT?  THE MOVEMENT OF ELECTRONS THROUGH A MAGNETIC FIELD.  THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN CAUSED BY THE MAGNET IN PRIOR ART."

rubbish, rubbish, rubbish!!! Go back to school.

One ampere of current represents one coulomb of electrical charge (6.24 x 1018 charge carriers) moving past a specific point in one second. Moving charges be they electrons, -ve or +ve charged matter or polarised molecules cause a magnetic field to be created... and as for prior art statement. What do you mean ? Current is only caused by a magnetic field  - what nonsense.

You say:
"SM's kicks did not come from voltage but high FREQ"

rubbish, rubbish, rubbish!!!

You need to look up what frequency means. Frequency means "number of cycles per unit of time". It is a measurement not a thing. To say SM's kicks came from a measurement is pure nonsense.

What do you think is cycling when SM talks about frequency ?
Well here are some choices:

1. Voltage.
2. Current.
3. Standing waves.
4. Rotating standing waves.
5. Location of kicks around a coil.

Take your pick, a cycling of ANY of them, indirectly means the voltage is also cycling.

Bruce, in all seriousness, you need to refresh your memory on electricty and magnetism, because people are having a laugh at your expense. Then you'll realise that indeed ignorance is indeed bliss!

http://ippex.pppl.gov/interactive/electricity/

And please don't tell us that it is because of your ignorance that you can understand more of what SM is saying - this is just tripe and allows you to keep wading in the brown stuff of your ignorance.

What is requires is a broad outlook and a belief that NOT everything concerning electricity and magnetism is already known. That whilst our understanding or MODELLING of electricity and magnetism works well under a model that assumes a closed energy system does not mean this IS the case. If all standard electrical circuits also involve an EQUAL exchange with an all pervasive energy (say in the ether or background noise of the universe) the closed loop model works well. However, if you can devise a circuit where this energy exchange is NOT equal you get an effect like the SM's devices.

Finally, you haven't even taken the time to separate out Mannix's theories and those comments directly attributed to SM. If you go to http://www.gn0sis.com/ there is a SM section where this is done for you. Those starting Dear Lindsay and ending SM are from SM. Anything else ISN'T from SM.

(That is a zero in the domain name not the letter 'o').

And you would do well to LISTEN intently to Tao.


UncleFester

#8
April 25, 2007, 07:03:01 AM
Dear god! please dont send him over to Gn0sis too! We don't need these kinds of distractions there as well. criminy!

Mannix

#9
April 25, 2007, 09:00:10 AM
btentzer,

Your enthusiasim is great ..many of those here have been thru it and very thoroughly ..while there is some confusion it might be better to slow down and take stock....wind some coils while you do.

It would be a shame to waste your good energy on debate.


People are working hard to make this easier and it may not be long before we are discussing the best fire extinguishers.

To plaster your stuff that has not been tested by you thru these threads ,and create lot of stuff that wont move because you are not hands on...is possibly well meant but is seen as bad manners..

I politely ask that you consider testing things...Otto's test is a very good start.

what you describe is not at all complete ..you need to make it..perhaps you will surprise everybody..In another way.

As to Bens statement.re Myself and Steven/texts . he is wrong about that  but has no way of knowing it  because body there ever has ever bothered to ask me.Why would that be?


We all have lots to learn and it aint all tpuology

My very best to those who are getting sore fingers..and sore heads

Lindsay Mannix






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