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Overunity Machines Forum



New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

Started by hartiberlin, May 11, 2007, 12:49:03 AM

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4Tesla

I think this might help.. I have attached two graphic to explain my idea of the springs.. not worried about the position of the wheel to explain.. not at 4, 6, and etc.

Jason

Edit: Centrifugal force should hold the weights in place until the next release.

broli

That's the same thing really. The "pulling" you refer to will come back later as pushing so there are no loses in that. But as is I realized every turn gravity sucks energy out of the springs by pulling the weight down while it's going up when it's released.

4Tesla

What I am showing is that with the springs attached to the weights.. there isn't enough force to compress the springs.. not attached.. more force.  It is not the same.

Jason

Edit: Also I'm talking about real springs.. not bungees.  Bungees store energy when pulled.. springs store energy when pushed.

LarryC

Quote from: broli on August 27, 2008, 09:57:55 AM
Oke scrap that. The weights not going all the way back is not due to loses but due to gravity  ;D. When it goes back up gravity pulls down on it constantly so it will just barely make it. The bad thing is that extra cm push I talked about is actually a lot of energy....

Btw here's the video...

http://ziosproject.com/NJ/bobW1.avi

As you can see it doesn't go beyond the lock.

Great work and nice first shot. But it seems that the the RPM's is too slow to get the centrifugal sling that is required to bypass gravity and the springs seem to overwhelm the whole process. My unit did not bounce around like that. But please keep at it as it looks promising.


@Jason,

Springs are normally sold as compression, extension, or torsion. Bob K used compression springs on the ends and the shock type bellows in the middle (would consider as compression springs with more control).

Also, I don't think the centrifugal force will hold the required force in place, it requires the capture of the centrifugal slam force to help in the next cycle.


@Charlie,

Very interesting that Bob stated the shock type bellows latched the weights. Tried to look for it in his pic, but having a hard time finding any clue. Any insight!

Regards, Larry

4Tesla

I think that the compression type is the key.. latch the panel to store the energy then release at 4, which would push the weights and then centrifugal force pulls them the rest of the way to the other end and the spring at that end gets compressed, and then the panel gets latched and stores the energy to be released at 4 and the cycle goes on.

Jason