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New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

Started by hartiberlin, May 11, 2007, 12:49:03 AM

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AB Hammer

Greetings Larry

Bobs secret is simple but it is complicated for a single slide. You are going to have to have cross slides similar to the video of the wheel I sent you (one on each side). One will have to work off the other for an air unit. With a single slide it has to use a stepping system (to build up to give a central lift). As the weight pushes out and the mass of the weight becomes the factor. The pressure of the one pushes the other one to the up and hopefully just past the center in a cross form and stored for the single slide to released at the best moment. Bessler said along time ago, that the weights work in pairs. Another way to say one has to work off the other. Hopefully I can get some clear time shortly and we can get together and get this thing built (if you want the help). I will start on the air transfer system to develop the best use of what we can get out of each movement. A simple straight push pull will not be enough or they will still cancel each other out.

I'll give you a call later this week.
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

LarryC

Quote from: AB Hammer on September 04, 2008, 06:40:06 AM
Greetings Larry

Bobs secret is simple but it is complicated for a single slide. You are going to have to have cross slides similar to the video of the wheel I sent you (one on each side). One will have to work off the other for an air unit. With a single slide it has to use a stepping system (to build up to give a central lift). As the weight pushes out and the mass of the weight becomes the factor. The pressure of the one pushes the other one to the up and hopefully just past the center in a cross form and stored for the single slide to released at the best moment. Bessler said along time ago, that the weights work in pairs. Another way to say one has to work off the other. Hopefully I can get some clear time shortly and we can get together and get this thing built (if you want the help). I will start on the air transfer system to develop the best use of what we can get out of each movement. A simple straight push pull will not be enough or they will still cancel each other out.

I'll give you a call later this week.

Thanks, AB

Got it. Your machine would be much easier to modify for air than mind, so I'll continue with my current design and modify as required. Hopefully someone will make a breakthru.

Regards, Larry

noonespecial

@all

Here's my latest thinking on Bob's machine including how I believe the air cylinder might be configured. I'm throwing this out here so we can brainstorm any possible changes or obvious things I might have missed or possibly a better way to do it.

Regards,
Charlie

[edit] The center text is poorly worded. It should read "...lift it 8"-9" just past the center point".

LarryC

Quote from: noonespecial on September 04, 2008, 12:18:38 PM
@all

Here's my latest thinking on Bob's machine including how I believe the air cylinder might be configured. I'm throwing this out here so we can brainstorm any possible changes or obvious things I might have missed or possibly a better way to do it.


Hi Charlie,

Sorry about taking so long to respond, but been having problems with site everytime I get on.

Anyway, very interesting design! You are certainly creative.

Confused about the 'pressure is captured and release to the bottom air cylinder' statement. Wouldn't the top air cylinder be at the bottom at the next half-cycle?

Also, I think there would be an issue with the 2.5" part of the lever, having to much force pulling to the side toward full capture. Had a similar problem with my first design.

Regards, Larry


noonespecial

Quote from: LarryC on September 06, 2008, 09:25:12 AM
Hi Charlie,

Sorry about taking so long to respond, but been having problems with site everytime I get on.

Anyway, very interesting design! You are certainly creative.

Confused about the 'pressure is captured and release to the bottom air cylinder' statement. Wouldn't the top air cylinder be at the bottom at the next half-cycle?

Also, I think there would be an issue with the 2.5" part of the lever, having to much force pulling to the side toward full capture. Had a similar problem with my first design.

Regards, Larry



Hi Larry,

OK...now that the site is back up.....:)

Sorry for the confusion. My drawing only shows a partial rotation from 5:00 to 6:00 to show the effect of the air cylinder. You are correct that the top cylinder in my drawing would then become the bottom cylinder to receive the pressure during the next half cycle. But then, the other cylinder would be at the top and become compressed when the weights are flung upward...etc. BTW, when I was researching pneumatic stuff on the net I came across a device called a pressure booster. Apparently it is able to apply 2 pounds of output force for every pound of input. Just thought that was interesting.

Regarding the side pressure on the lever, as usual :) you are correct here also! I wanted to try and draw the 10" portion of the lever as an arc that would always be at 90 degrees to the roller bearing but MS Word is limited in its drawing tools. I really got to break down and get me some new programs.....:)

Still looking forward to seeing your design!
Best regards,
Charlie