New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

[rlortie]

Bill wrote: Well, I guess this means this is not "free" energy.  So much for open source.

Broli wrote;  Open your eyes forget about money. Do everything you can to change the world. Open source your projects spread the word, build them for your neighbors teach others. Stop putting Inc. behind every idea for crying out loud.

Your were correct Broli, that was a bad time to be posting!

I do not understand some people and what the hell they mean by "Open source"?

Everything on this and any other forum is open source, Every patent application and patent that you can pull up from any related web page is open source. Bobs machine will be open sourced once a patent application number is released. It does not matter whether it works or not, you will have access to it. In fact you can start building now with what information you can gleam from this thread.  In the meantime it is nothing more than another hyped up attempt for a machine that like so many before, is not verified to work (to my knowledge). How much open source do you require to satisfy your comments for more open sourcing?

If I apply for a patent then you will have your open sourcing to it also, in the meantime I have nothing to open or free source other than ventilating my feelings about being told I should open source and forget the money. Well I have news for you, when and if I find it you will know about it. Just do not expect me to deliver a unit to you post paid.

This continuing cry for "open source" is getting monotonous, What do you expect open sourcing to be and what do you expect it to provide you with that is not already available.

This whole issue reminds me of the story about a man who puts an ad in a newspaper stating he has free firewood to give away.  The only callers want to know if he delivers splits and stacks it in their back yard or on the porch!

Why am I being chastised  for not open sourcing?  What do you expect, Should I invent the machine, build and deliver to you and your neighbors house and connect them for you, then maintain it at absolutely no cost to you?  Will you be home when I show up or will you be standing in the welfare line to pickup your food stamps and rent subsidy check?  After all money means nothing to you except to burn for heat! 

You have the opportunity to build any machine design of your choice whether it be posted here or pulled up from various patent web sites, what more do you want to consider it open sourcing?

I am quite sure that over the years a lot of members on all O-U related forums have not open sourced their pitfalls and failures and why should they if they are of no value. The whole idea of a forum like this is to advise someone attempting to make the mistake you already made.  Is that not open sourcing? I for one am not interested in looking at page after page of non-runners. I have enough of my own thank you!

@ Alan

The rich and selfish would not be helping and talking on this forum unless to talk people into open sourcing, so they can manufacture and control what the person who gave it away and maybe be good enough to give them a job to pick there brain for more information so they can stay up front of their competition.

I am proud to hear you make this statement.  How do you get control, you let someone else give it to you which is exactly what some members are asking to be done. It is feasible that they are the rich and selfish.

If you wish to keep it from the rich and selfish you do not open source it until you have that application number in your hot little hands! Then all who are not to lazy to do so can build one. The rich and selfish can build their own also, but they cannot contain or commercialize it.  I pointed that out when I posted about Tesla selling out to Westinghouse and then being offered a job. A Wikipedia search of either man will verify this. 

I apologize for my rambling, thank you for being patient,  I feel better now!     

Ralph Lortie     

[broli]

Yes Ralph any time now, what was it 40+ years on the quest for PM? Just don't feel bad when a young group beats you to it with a completely different (read no) bussiness plan.

You guys don't make FUCKING sense. All of you talk the same garbage of "poor me that worked and spent so much money on it, deserve it back". Yet you guys don't look at each other and say "oh we actually have common goals and beliefs why don't we share out work and work together." Instead you use cryptic talk to hint at your projects that will only work in the 10th dimension.

Oh and Ralph maybe you need a bit more reading into "Open Source" licenses before trying to sound poetic because it's obvious you don't know shit what you're talking about.

[AB Hammer]

@broli

Where are your designs posted?
What have you added except a passing opinion and cry for open sourcing?
Nobody has the wright to own nothing?
It must be free for all?
Who will be in control of progress if there is no gain?
Where will be the desire if there is no gain?
Who will pay for the research?

All and all broli, IMO you are a part of corporate, a socialist, or you are living in a dream world. Either way, WAKE UP!! and look around you, and see true reality.

[broli]

Ab, it's oke your brainwashed mind cant comprehend it I understand. You can do things your own way but don't come crying when you start living on the street holding "Will make bessler wheels for Food.". Because surely that's your reality, rich or poor.

[Jon J Hutton]

Patenting may not always be the right solution. It is advisable to weigh up the costs and the benefits of patent protection carefully, prior to initiating the process. You will therefore need to understand what might happen if your business decides not to patent a patentable invention: Somebody else might patent it. In most countries (with the exception of the United States), where more than one person or enterprise has filed patent applications for the same invention, the first person or enterprise to apply will have the right to the patent. This may mean that, if you do not patent your inventions or the inventions of your employees at all, or if you file your application too late, somebody else - who may have developed the same or an equivalent invention later - might get a patent. The patent-holder will then be able to legitimately exclude your enterprise from the market, limit its activities to the continuation of prior use (where the patent legislation provides for such exception) or ask your enterprise to pay a licensing fee for using the invention. Competitors will take advantage of your invention. If the product is successful, many other competitor firms will be tempted to make the same product by using your invention but without having to pay for such use. Larger companies may take advantage of economies of scale to produce the product more cheaply and compete at a more favourable market price. This may considerably reduce your market share for that product. Even small competing companies can produce the same product and often sell it at a lower price, as they do not have to recoup research and development (R&D)costs you have invested. Possibilities of licensing, selling or transferring technology will be severely hampered. Nobody is willing to pay for the right to use something that does not belong to anybody. Without IP protection, opportunities for licensing the technology to others in exchange for royalties are severely hampered. Moreover, wherever negotiations do take place for transferring a given technological development without IP protection over the technology in question, parties are wary of disclosing their inventions, fearing that the other side may 'run away with the invention'. Patent protection limits the risks of this happening.