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Overunity Machines Forum



New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

Started by hartiberlin, May 11, 2007, 12:49:03 AM

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noonespecial

If you are still around Larry, I just wanted to report my progress. I had my design almost completed but couldn't get the connecting arm geometry to work the way I wanted. So....I'm going to plan B which is a modified Bob wheel. I'll include a picture here and be back later to explain my thinking and I would be interested in your feedback. Talk to you soon.
Charlie

LarryC

Quote from: noonespecial on August 04, 2008, 07:44:48 PM
If you are still around Larry, I just wanted to report my progress. I had my design almost completed but couldn't get the connecting arm geometry to work the way I wanted. So....I'm going to plan B which is a modified Bob wheel. I'll include a picture here and be back later to explain my thinking and I would be interested in your feedback. Talk to you soon.
Charlie

Hi Charlie,

Thanks for the info. It always help to report problems to save others wasted time. Do you have a drawing of the arm geometry? 

And yes, I'm still around, got most of my parts this weekend, developing and will start testing in a couple of days. I'm sure it will take a lot of adjusting to get it working, if I can.

I do think I understand what you are trying to do with your new design and it seems correct mechanically. But, you don't seem to be capturing the centrifugal slam force anymore. I believe that is the only reason that Bob's machine may work when all other gravity machines fail. I think Stephan has also made a comment about saving the centrifugal force in another thread.

I watched Bob's movie more and don't think it is an optical illusion of not coming up at 12:00, back to the belief that the arm is not coming all the way up until after 12:00 due to the speed. Noticed at the end when he is slowing it down it starts to increment up around 12:00.

Regards, Larry

PS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force a fictiitious force  ???


noonespecial

Quote from: LarryC on August 04, 2008, 09:55:37 PM
Hi Charlie,

Thanks for the info. It always help to report problems to save others wasted time. Do you have a drawing of the arm geometry?

Yes, I'll post it for you later today if I get a chance.

QuoteAnd yes, I'm still around, got most of my parts this weekend, developing and will start testing in a couple of days. I'm sure it will take a lot of adjusting to get it working, if I can.

Sounds great! Can't wait to see it.

QuoteI do think I understand what you are trying to do with your new design and it seems correct mechanically. But, you don't seem to be capturing the centrifugal slam force anymore. I believe that is the only reason that Bob's machine may work when all other gravity machines fail. I think Stephan has also made a comment about saving the centrifugal force in another thread.

Actually, I do but on a smaller scale than on Bob's machine. One thing that concerns me about how his is supposed to work is that there will be a tremendous centripetal vector force at 12:00 which seems counter-intuitive. In other words, the massive weight wants to keep traveling outward and would seem to impede the rotational momentum. Which brings us to your next point....

QuoteI watched Bob's movie more and don't think it is an optical illusion of not coming up at 12:00, back to the belief that the arm is not coming all the way up until after 12:00 due to the speed. Noticed at the end when he is slowing it down it starts to increment up around 12:00.
Which means that the weight may not actually be "slamming" to the end like we originally suspected or something else is going on.

QuotePS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force a fictiitious force  ???

Very interesting article. Helps to understand that there are multiple forces going on here.
Best regards,
Charlie

noonespecial

Hi Larry,
This was the design I was working on. I was attempting counter-rotational weights to maintain momentum, but the connecting arm didn't work the way I was hoping it would. There was a point between 4:00 and 5:00 where it would stick. I was going to attempt to make the arm adjustable when I came up with my latest design. So I will shelve this one for now and work on the new one.
Charlie
PS - I don't know about anyone else but ever since Stephan moved the database, I've been having a heck of time accessing the forum. It can take up to 5 minutes for a page to load and I'm on a 5M line.  ???

4Tesla

I don't believe the slam is the key to getting this wheel to work, but it may be if you are trying an exact replication.  I believe a modified version of Bobs wheel will work, as I am working on a design that doesn't rely on storing the centrifugal energy, but it does rely on the centrifugal force to move the weights.. just doesn't store it.

Jason