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Ultrasonic generator application

Started by keithturtle, May 13, 2007, 01:16:31 AM

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keithturtle

May 13, 2007, 01:16:31 AM
Howdy,Y'all;
I recently got my hands on an old medical ultrasonic generator, ca.1950's.  Doc said it was 100,000cps, and would bubble water at the point of skin contact (heat or what?) so he used mineral oil as transfer medium.   I think it was used to alleviate muscle or tendon strains.   Anyhow, I have this dinosaur taking up shop space, and wonder if anyone knows of an application for it.  I thought of lashing the output probe to my containment vessel and checking for changes in gas production.

Ideas, anyone?

Thanks
Keith
Soli Deo Gloria

Bruce_TPU

#1
May 13, 2007, 08:11:04 PM
Keith,

Take a look at my experiment with frequency in the 20k hz range.

The thread is "interesting experiment with meyers type cell".

Please post the results of your experiment.

Thank you,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

keithturtle

#2
May 13, 2007, 11:55:15 PM
100,000 is bound to be some harmonic of 20,000.   Still working to get the baselines set up.

I'll give it a try; getting the vibrations to transfer shouldn't be too hard.

Keith
Soli Deo Gloria

Bruce_TPU

#3
May 14, 2007, 05:46:05 AM
I used an earphone and dropped it in.  It works fine for testing.  Like a small mini underwater speaker.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

lexridge

#4
May 16, 2007, 01:19:33 AM
Why not use a piezo speaker (all metal construction)? The best reason I can think of is they can far exceed the 20K frequency limit of most common speakers. I've read some piezos can produce up to 60K. Don't know first hand, but certainly worth looking into, I'd think.

Perhaps some very thin SS could be used as a piezo. Just a thought.
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