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Overunity Machines Forum



Controller circuit for Hilden Brandt motor needed..

Started by hartiberlin, May 19, 2007, 12:56:53 PM

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Thaelin

   Sadly to  thoes that haven't heard, Howard Johnson has passed. He will be missed.

thaelin

JackH

Hello All.

Well about 25 to 30 years ago Howard Johnson was the one that inspired me to get into this magnetic motor rat race.   I thank him for that.

I am truly sorry that he passed away.

Later,,,,,,,JackH

gyulasun

Quote from: wattsup on December 25, 2007, 07:41:45 PM

I am curious if you or anyone would know why such motors have two heavy copper triple winds at 180 degrees on the armature and next to the rotor. Are they used to overcome the sticky spot. There may be a technique or reason there that could be useful in other designs.


Your picture referred to is here: 
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2386.0;attach=15666

Hi,

I have also come accross such one turn 'windings' in the (laminated) cores of electric motors and these are called shaded pole motors and the 1 turn coils are the shading coils. You may have noticed these 1 turn coils are short-circuited.
Here is explanation how these work: http://www.answers.com/topic/shaded-pole-motor?cat=technology  and http://www.tpub.com/neets/book5/18e.htm and in a very detail way see here: http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~moloney/AppComp/2001Entries/e03d/shadedpole.htm
I understand the short-circuited 1 turn coils consume energy coming from the main stator excitation by way of induction so you pay for the effect from your input power (from this respect it works just like a transformer with a normal AC primary and a 1 turn (and short-circuited) secondary windings).

rgds,  Gyula

Honk

The returned controller arrived today.
Before I opened it I could hear something loose rattle inside the controller.
When I opened it I could see that the Toroid in BEMF return circuit had fallen off due to rough shipping!
There was a clear smell of smoke, but not like burned electronics, more like cigarettes in an old ash tray.
I could not locate any burn marks at my first investigation. Very strange. But the fuse was blown.
I will continue the visual examination tonight, and tomorrow I'll locate the fault and repair it.

I just wonder if the toroid already had fallen off when it arrived to Jack?
If so it clearly explains the failure of the controller.
Buy if it was OK at Jacks place, then it must have fallen of on its way back to me.
And this means I have to investigate the cause of the failure even more thoroughly.
Magnet Power equals Clean Power

shruggedatlas

Quote from: Honk on January 08, 2008, 08:29:10 AM
The returned controller arrived today.
Before I opened it I could hear something loose rattle inside the controller.
When I opened it I could see that the Toroid in BEMF return circuit had fallen off due to rough shipping!
There was a clear smell of smoke, but not like burned electronics, more like cigarettes in an old ash tray.
I could not locate any burn marks at my first investigation. Very strange. But the fuse was blown.
I will continue the visual examination tonight, and tomorrow I'll locate the fault and repair it.

I just wonder if the toroid already had fallen off when it arrived to Jack?
If so it clearly explains the failure of the controller.
Buy if it was OK at Jacks place, then it must have fallen of on its way back to me.
And this means I have to investigate the cause of the failure even more thoroughly.


I know I am going to get flamed for this, but have you considered that Jack is just playing you, just trying to establish for his investors that his machine puts out so much power that it burns up whatever you try to hook into it?  You are spending alot of effort on this, while Jack sells shares of his closed-source "invention" to investors.  There is a very real possibility that this is all a sham.  And it definitely goes very much against the spirit of this open source forum.