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Controller circuit for Hilden Brandt motor needed..

Started by hartiberlin, May 19, 2007, 12:56:53 PM

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casman1969

To all who are stuck on Jacks' huge BEMF and trying to think about what to use it for, forget it, that is not the point of this motor. The point is simply this.., small electrical input is multiplied in his configuration to give an amplified mechanical output period. Yes improvements could be done but all he wants is to confirm that the mechanical operation is OU. I, for one, believe it is. Having also seen several iterations of his concept I think we are loosing sight of what this motor does. It vastly improves the efficiency of electric motors. Cars, motorcycles, wheelchairs, you name it, all would benfit. He's not about to reinvent this machine and has been very gracious in allowing us to suggest various improvements but the bottom line is still the same.., more out than in!!!! Deal with it and help him to simply confirm. Once that is done, the world can make all the improvements all they want. For his truly masterfull machining and dedication to the principle of multiplying force we should all be assisting in any way he wants.

Jack,
I am one of your biggest fans and appreciate the opportunity you gave me to check this out for myself. My deepest regret is not having a dyno with me to do the one simple thing you ask. For this I appologize and know this. If you let me come back, I'll DEFINITELY bring or secure that dyno and we can be done with that. Those OSU (or whoever they are) people never bothered to give you thier results. Sure would like to know why????
Take care of yourself, your wife and Daisy and to HELL with the rest.

Your friend,


Carl

ps

Show Jack your support by sending funds. This is the American way, we do it for ourselves while helping others. Help him.

hartiberlin

Quote from: dingbat on May 28, 2008, 11:00:02 PM
It made the motor quite useless.  It caused an effect that was like torque reversals as the coils discharged through the diodes.  I was initially surprised how the diodes killed the motor, but when I thought about it it made sense.  The diodes cause current in the coils that causes a magnetic pulse that happens to counteract the armature rotation at the instance it occurs.  I don't know if the motor would have kept running with the diodes in the circuit.  It seems that the spikes must be allowed to dissipate somewhat unchecked to not disturb the torque being produced.

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db

Hi Dingbat,
did you try to change the timing then ?
So did you change the firing angle versus rotor position ?

This must have been done, as surely the diode freewheel circuit will
change the timing...

Anyway, if this does not work out, if you will change the phase angle
of the commutator points firing versus the rotor position,

just use this attached much simper circuit.
The fluorescent tube will clamp the voltage to a maximum
of about 300 to 400 Volts and when the tube fires it will
even go down and release all the stored coil energy in a flash of light.

Be sure to use graphite copper contact points as it will enhance the
power output and if you use lead acid batteries for the 150 Volts power
supply, it will recharge your batteries due to the negative current spikes
ala Newman.

Good luck.
Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Well,
I had a longer telephone call with Carl ( Casman),
when he was visiting Jack.

He told me, that the motor is incredible strong mechanically
at the output.

Too bad that Jack did not yet do a dynamometer test and
Carl unfortunately did not have the time to buy
a dynamometer when he was there only for 1 or 2 days..

As Carl is ready to do this dynamometer test, it would
be best to test it now and have the motor
finally tested for maximum mechanical output,
as the capacitors Jack was using are okay for now
suppressing the sparking and the motor had really a great
mechanical output,as Carl posted.

So Jack, if your health is again better, just try to fix
a new date with Carl and please let him test your
motor with a dynamometer, so we will finall know,
what your motor puts out.
If it really puts out about 500 Watts mechanically from
about 100 to 150 Watts input power, then it should
be easy to couple a generator to it and have a selfrunning
loop.

Please Jack, keep us up to date, when you deceide to do such a test.
Carl is ready to bring all the equipment to your place,
so there is no need for you to have more expenses yourself..

Maybe this will also get you faster your patent,
when you can prove the power output.

Good luck.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

JackH

Hello All,

Now I might make somebody made or not, but I got to say what I think.

Well I must go on about this motor I am building.   I preached about this motor for about a year now, and nobody beleived me, even you Stefan.  The doctor in Columbus told me that that is what caused me to get ALS,  I was in fite or flight for so long about this motor that my emune system totally shut down.  Now here come (Caseman) up to my shop.  Now I want to say this guy was a totally nice guy and I liked him very much.  But how are you all beleiveing him instead of me.  I have never lied about this motor and never will.   This motor was tested at 1/2 HP with a dino by somebody out there, imput was only 90 watts,and I was a witness to it.  It produced over 3/4 HP of the geared shaft with a lower rpm.

Now I am not going to do anything with this motor till I am well or without ALS.   My aturney talked to me the other day and he said that he could get the patent on the motor with no problem.   Now I do not know what the hury is.   It took Howerd Johnson 8 or 10 years to get a patent on his invention,  and that was I beleive in the 70's, back when I first started on motor I am working on now.  Now my wife has an insurence policy on me if I dye so she can pay the aturney off.  Or if I live, it will take some time to pay it off.  The aturney bill is up to about $2000.00 right now.


Now as for donations to my cause.  There has been a total of $275.00 donated to my motor now.  I told everybody that they would a part of the motor when it was ready to go to market.   $275.00 just isent money to do anything with. I just do not have the money to get the motor into a self running mode yet.   I need a generator yet and all the mounting hardwere to go with it.   I must say I tryed the diode freewheel circuit across the coil, and it just does not work,  Its holding the coils on to long and they hold the rotor back.  Another thing,  This motor is generating electricity that add to is power input, and no body will beleive that.  dingbat is a witness to that.


Now this motor, built out of the right materials would be much smaller and much more powerfull.   But I just do not have the time or the money to complete it to my satisfaction.   A six valve radial motor would be much more powerfull than the one I built.

Well I must have said it all to no avail.

Later,,,,,,,JackH

casman1969

To ALL,

He's got it and we need it.

I've put my money where my mouth is and sincerely ask others on this forum to do the same. This man is for real and so is his motor(s). Please people, help him. This is why we are here!

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send to jkcc@ohiohills.com

My motives are simple.., I want one of these units to power my boat!