Controller circuit for Hilden Brandt motor needed..

[wattsup]

@Honk

As usual, great job and looking good indeed. Hope this one does it.
And again, I'll take two to go. lol

I have a question and I hope it is not to personal a question or that it may not set you off or taken in a bad way.

I have noticed in your posts that you are very adamant about the fact that the use of BEMFcannot lead to overunity. But yet you know that Jacks' motor/generator has the ultimate goal to prove overunity is possible, or at least this is what I understand to be his ultimate goal.

What are you views on OU research and the endeavors of so many around here and the world, and how does this play with your efforts to help Jack and his device. Or is Jack's device designed to take advantage of a totally other form of energy that seems acceptable to you.

My question is because I am curious to learn the motivation of someone as totally qualified in the real implementations of control circuits and power supplies to take part in a project as "out of this world". I think we can learn from your comments.

[JackH]

Later,,,,,,JackH

[Ergo]

Well I am going to try to answer some of your questions.   This motor generates electricity.  If you notice the coil fires up to generate magnetics and also the perminent magnets makes double the power at the rotor.   Now when the coil shuts OFF, the perminent magnets need to go back through the coil core to stop pulling on the rotor.  Now when the flux from the perminet magnets goes back through the coil core they halft to cut the wires on the coil, therfore gewnerating electricity.   Each of the coils generate BEMF and also generate about 150 vdc at around 400 ma.   

So if you add them all three togather it comes up to 150 vdc at around 1.2 amps, more than the motor input.    The motor input is only 150 vdc at around .600 amps under load.

Later,,,,,,JackH

But this math cannot be right. If I have understood your motor correctly it uses three phases, each phaze 60 degrees apart from the others.
In this case you cannot add together the back emf from all three phases simultaneously, because they don't happen at the same time.
The back emf output should instead be maximum 150vdc at 400ma. If the input is 150vdc 600ma this equals a back emf efficiency of 66%.
150vdc 600ma = 90 wattts of input power, 150vdc 400ma = 60 watts of back emf power. 60 / 90 = 66% emf efficiency.
This shouldn't have anything to do with the motors total performance. It will still have fantastic torque and I hope you the best of success.

[Honk]

I have a question and I hope it is not to personal a question or that it may not set you off or taken in a bad way.

What are you views on OU research and the endeavors of so many around here and the world, and how does this play with your efforts to help Jack and his device. Or is Jack's device designed to take advantage of a totally other form of energy that seems acceptable to you.

My question is because I am curious to learn the motivation of someone as totally qualified in the real implementations of control circuits and power supplies to take part in a project as "out of this world". I think we can learn from your comments.

I'm helping Jack because I'm really curious to see the motor run and I'd like to see a self-runner as well.
Jack has put so much effort into this machine and he deserves the best help possible.
Btw, the controller was shipped 10:30 this morning to Jack. Hopefully he's getting it within a week, being christmas and so.

I have noticed in your posts that you are very adamant about the fact that the use of BEMFcannot lead to overunity. But yet you know that Jacks' motor/generator has the ultimate goal to prove overunity is possible, or at least this is what I understand to be his ultimate goal.

If there is a path to OU there must be several ways to bridge it, but BEMF is not one of those roads.
You see, Back EMF is generated from a coil and the coil acts just opposite to a capacitor.
Most people understand capacitors and how energy is stored in them just like batteries but they don't realise that a coil is just the mirror image of a capacitor.
A coil is operating just like a capacitor but in the reverse opposite way.
You can store energy in a coil (like a capacitor) but instead of keeping hold to the storage the coil will release all of the energy in a burst of reversed voltage.
The energy level of the voltage is the same as the energy that was put into the coil minus the losses (copper losses, eddy currents, saturating losses).
As you can see there is no mysterous gain of the BEMF. It is a well understood and used feature in everyday life. All switched electronics make use of the BEMF to
enhance efficiency but there is always losses involved and there is no way possible to use BEMF as the primary power source of an overunity device.
To say that BEMF is overunity is like saying that a capacitor will increase the energy you put into it on its own, but it doesn't. The same goes for coils.

[yorkshireminer]

Dear Jack and Honk,

I don't know what it is Jack and Honk, when I look at the  workmanship, from you two, I get a warm feeling, perhaps it is because of the way I was  schooled. I served my time as an apprentice in the Coal Mines in England as an Electrical fitter, quality was always emphasized because of the danger of explosion, so you took your time and got it right. I don't know if I speak for anybody else who comments here but by God there is a Gentleman here in Holland who is wishing the pair of you well. I would like to say I wish the Pair of you a Merry Christmas and a Happy and hopefully a prosperous New Year. What attracted me here in the first place was the simplicity of Jacks idea. It is so simple you say to yourself why didn't I think of that. The important thing is not to get jealous.
I would like to say to you Jack, it is nice to know that Ohio university is taking you seriously, I hope that you have got them to sign  a NDA (None disclosure Agreement) mind you I think you know what I mean. The nice thing about the affair is that they will be able to give you a lot of information concerning measurement error. Lots of so called over unity devices have failed because the person has measured the output incorrectly. It will certainly be nice to get a dynomometer  test and I hope that you publish the results, well at least give us an indication. For me it doesn't really matter whether your motor test OU. If it is just twice as efficient as a normal electrical motor, it would mean that Electrical vehicles would be able to go twice as far and that would mean that with the modern lead acid batteries from firefly, electrical vehicles would be competitive with most ICE vehicles, and cheaper. For all of us, America has got to get itself off its addiction to oil. Where America leads the world follows. We are paying Billions to a set of arab goat herders who are using it to try and destroy the west. By the way Jack what ever happened to all those magnetic clamps you built and patented, was there no American firm that took that up? Beautifully made by the way.
Honk once again a beautiful piece of workmanship. I don't know what you will be doing in the new year. I don't know if you are planning to travel to Ohio, to see Jack and see how the motor is going, it is always easier when you don't have to rely of E-mails. If you do, don't forget to raise your hat to two other great Ohioan Inventors the Wright Brothers. By the way keep us informed, you always do, and keep safe.

Deep Regards

Yorkshire miner