John Kanzius: saltwater can burn!

[hansvonlieven]

G'day all,

vondesastre is right. Electrolysis of Saltwater is not a good idea since it liberates chlorine gas, which is lethal. It is a better idea to use Epsom salt as an electrolyte or caustic soda.

Every book I have ever read on the electrolysis of water warns about this.

Hans von Lieven

[Evil Roy Slade]

I hate to rain on this parade...but...

Firstly,
In Mr Kanzius's own words (Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kanzius)
'Kanzius admits that this stage of development of his method, the process could not be considered an energy source, as more energy is used to produce the RF signal than can be obtained from the burning gas, and stated in July, 2007 that he never claimed his discovery would replace oil, asserting only that his discovery was "thought provoking''

Secondly,
The First Law of Thermodynamics is a stubborn little thing and whether we like it or not is here to stay.

ERS

[hansvonlieven]

Tell that to Resin Rat 2 Evil Roy Slade

He seems to be making a fair fist of it.

It is not a question of thermodynamics, it is a question of efficiently liberating the energy inherent in water. Only because standard electrolysis is inefficient this does not mean  that it cannot be done this way or some other way. Even main stream science agrees with this and is engaged in a lot of research in this area.

Hans von Lieven

[Evil Roy Slade]

@Hans,

I am all for research to improve the efficiency of any system. My point is that efficiency of %100 is the absolute maximum. Trying to design beyond this indisputable maximum is senseless and just takes inventive resources away from what should be the real task of getting as close to %100 as possible. 

Sorry but I am not aware of Resin Rat. Can you point me to the source and I will check it out.

ERS

[hansvonlieven]

G'day Roy,

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,518.870/topicseen.html

it is a large thread 59 pages in all, you need to read the lot :-(

Hans