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Chas Campbell free power motor

Started by TheOne, June 04, 2007, 10:25:17 PM

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FreeEnergy

so it wasn't "free power" from the start because it was all made of "crappy parts" to begin with? assuming we use better parts will make it Over Unity? hmmm will see when the video arrives.

i could be wrong about all this.




:) peace

Joh70

Thanks a lot to Chas and Ash! Wait for the reports! In my opinion, both systems belong together. The flywheels alone are NOT overunity in any kind. And the bessler-wheel alone will not turn continously without the flywheels, because the weight has to be kept in unbalanced state throu storaged and wired-back energy. Has nothing to do with bad quality parts. It runs only together. Maybe it is not easy for Chas to give away his baby in a very first demonstration.

Humbugger

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Apparently Charles, like many inventors, is a bit of a showman.  Nothing inherently wrong with that, I suppose, but even an appearance of purposeful deception or circus-like distraction does detract from the credible nature of any claim and the purported good "world community" intentions in my opinion. 

I refer to the following bit of surprising information:

We are now to understand that the big "gravity wheel" has absolutely nothing to do with the electrical apparatus and never has.  Hrmph!  So now there is no more claim that the electrical device is "gravity-powered" or gets any useful output energy from cleverly-harnessed gravitational forces.

We are looking, it seems, at two entirely different and separate devices, neither of which exhibits self-running or even close to unity COP.  Is this entirely a case of wrong measurements in the past leading to unrealistic expectations or has something gone terribly wrong with the devices suddenly, I wonder. 

Or are there other possible explanations that, if merely mentioned by the likes of me in this context at this time would certainly lead to my banning from the forum? [Humbugger gets out his chalk and begins writing on the blackboard: " I will not negatively speculate nor accuse nor ridicule.  I will only ask sincere questions.  I will forever push for use of scientific methods and careful analysis."]

I know "free energy promoters" just really hate this part, but it is very important for scientific research purposes, if the science is to advance, prosper and grow, to analyze and understand what is behind any significant difference between the original expectations and the light of reality.  Doing a post-mortem on failed experiments is the key to understanding why the expectations were not met and progressively moving swiftly forward, albeit often in a new direction.

Is there a theory proposed by anyone involved as to why any excess energy might reasonably be expected from a system of standard motor/pullies/flywheels/alternator?  Have there been accidental changes made or some kind of rapid deterioration or sabotage since the 800W input 3500W output figures were suggested?  Was there a basic error made in calculation or measurement?  Have the bearings gone bad? 

Although I still look forward to seeing the presentation and the measurement methods used, it certainly sounds like Charles has a bit further to go before the first joule of free energy appears. 

I was particularly dismayed to hear that it was not possible to run 1KW of pure resistive load for more than ten seconds without the system nearly coming unglued despite a continuous 1440W input and a purported 3500W output capability!   Something must be terribly wrong there!

The delta between "the talk and the walk" is so enormous it just begs an explanation.  What gives here?  Can anyone explain this?


Humbugger

helmut

Hi Stefan
That sounds  very promising

Thanks to Chas and Ashtweth.
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Chas also wants us to replicate his Bessler like wheel, so
we can try to get it to run with better parts.

The Day will come,that we start with Replications.We will learn from it ,and
we will be able to improove something as possible.

helmut



At least they are healthy.

hartiberlin

I think,
just let is wait, until we see the video Ash and his partner did at Chas?s home.
Then we can see in detail, what was there.

As Chas has said before, with his flywheel device he is trying to exract
some kind of inertia energy via pulse-loading the flywheels via the output alternator..

Let us just wait and see, what Ash recorded there.
Also Ash said, that the big Bessler like wheel was very astonishing
to him and that one really must see its function and that this
has merit.

Anyway, just let us wait and see, what was filmed there.
Ash told me, that they are already busy putting the movie together.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum