Chas Campbell free power motor

[hartiberlin]

Okay, so this now could be a final working solution,
without using a SMOT ramp.

If somebody tells me, how I could simulate these 30 degrees slots taking the yellow
balls inside, I could simulate this in WM2D.

Regards, Stefan.

P.S: Hi Ash,
please forward this diagram to Chas, when you visit him again.
Many thanks.

[rMuD]

In my head Chas second device ended up a 1000 KG concrete flywheel cast in a ditch with it's axle fixed onto a generator. Then use the slippery belt stuffs to make it go. You can drive your car on top and give it a good whirl. You think your little coffee maker is going to stop that mass?

I'm not going to do the math. *grin*

I already know concrete is cheaper as batteries. I'm not fooled 

oh they are much heavier than that.. we wanted to put a  600KVA unit in the basement of the building, the elevators couldn't handle the discs individually that made up the 3 meter tall stack of them, we were going to have to dig a hole and cut a hole in the side of the building to put them in.. decided to scrap the project.

Concrete my god that would be a nightmare to balance..  1000KG

Good problem thinking,

Just make it float with it's axle at the height of the bearings.

Bit of wax etc

You can also make 2 of 500 kg on the same axle.

4 of 250 kg etc :-)

Doesn't sound undoable?

Can we fix the generator straight on the axle?

these are already manufactured by 10-20 different companies, and are wide spread used around the world..  generations of experience out there making these

[shruggedatlas]

Okay, so this now could be a final working solution,
without using a SMOT ramp.

If somebody tells me, how I could simulate these 30 degrees slots taking the yellow
balls inside, I could simulate this in WM2D.

Regards, Stefan.

P.S: Hi Ash,
please forward this diagram to Chas, when you visit him again.
Many thanks.

There is a problem on the lift side, where you have the balls surrounded by rails (drawn in red) to bring them closer to the center.  True, you initially gain by doing this, but the problem will be once the balls are lifted above the center of the wheel.  What will happen is that the balls get squeezed in the narrow angle, greatly increasing the friction involved in lifting them to the top.

Also, can anyone else comment on the balls and the two ramps experiment?  I am a novice at this, but this seems to be wrong somehow.  To make the ball arrive faster should take energy, but if the ball ends up at the same altitude as before, then the PE to KE exchange is equal, so I do not understand how this can happen.

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Hi guys, okay more for you to scratch your heads with (check attachments)

"found the original pic:
http://www.hcrs.at/BILDER/KUGEL2.JPG

Made the autocad drawing, then imported into Silux mechanical simulation.

The upper ball finishes first, because it has to go lower way and lower
friction losses. If I turn off the friction they should arrive at the same
time. This is the potential energy demonstration E=mgh, where you cannot
normally trick the energy. (conventional thinking)

Edit,

Hi Stefan, sure thing just catching up on the emails now and updating the web site will answer your email and post the results in the thread

[shruggedatlas]

Hi guys, okay more for you to scratch your heads with (check attachments)

"found the original pic:
http://www.hcrs.at/BILDER/KUGEL2.JPG

Made the autocad drawing, then imported into Silux mechanical simulation.

The upper ball finishes first, because it has to go lower way and lower
friction losses. If I turn off the friction they should arrive at the same
time. This is the potential energy demonstration E=mgh, where you cannot
normally trick the energy. (conventional thinking)

Edit,

Hi Stefan, sure thing just catching up on the emails now and updating the web site will answer your email and post the results in the thread

I did a little digging and I was wrong about this being impossible.  This conforms with the laws of physics and is is related to the Brachistrochone curve problem.  The Brachistochrone curve is the curve of fastest descent, so it is indeed true that two objects can arrive at the destination point at different times.  Here is the wikipedia article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachistochrone

However, I do not see how this really matters to the gravity wheel.  We are already free to have as many balls in queue as we need, so we do not care about getting to the end of the ramp faster.