New positive proof of a working Newman fan motor charging a battery

[CLaNZeR]

Hi Again-

Ok, now I have attached the file for you. Open and scroll on down past all of the other interesting stuff until you get to the section of Tesla's 4 battery switch system

Hope it works for you

Nice PDF, thanks PG46

Now to find more time to bloody read the thing 

Regards

Sean.

[Thaelin]

Hi PG46:
   Did a read on the pdf and I remember setting up the 3 bat system. I used a auto tail bulb for the load. The fact that you have 24v on one side and  12 on the other makes a difference of 12v between the two positive terminals. I ran the test for 8 times and by that time the batts were all showing depleted. But then I was using a heat source as well. The heat was gone with no way to return it. Even if you have only a .1v increse, you did the work in the motor as well. I will need one more batt to set up what you did.

@ Stephan
   Hi stephan, I am still at a loss here with this motor. I see it run. I see the result of his test "2" times and yet I know for a fact that the back pulse from the coil is in the "reverse" polarity to the battery. Common sense would tell me that it would further deplete the batt instead of charge it. If you use a blocking diode and then another diode to take the reverse pulse to a second battery, then it will charge it just fine. I have done that already with my motor.

My motor is really simple, a stack of MWave magnets inside a 6" pvc on a stainless rod with a couple of wipers for comm. Runs good. Getting ready to add more wire as 20 ohms is still not enough to gen large back emf spikes. Keep'n on

sugra

Hi All-

Well I am yet to get an increase in voltage using any single slightly depleted batteries with my newman styled motor. 

However..... as mentioned before when I place the motor into a tesla 4 battery system I get a clear voltage increase without any doubt across all four batteries.

In my tests I use 4 identical 12 V 5 amp batteries- they were each run down to 12.3 volts They were connected in parallel for a while to even out the voltages and measured. Then I place them into the Tesla 4 battery arrangement. I don't use diodes, swithcing circuits and all the other BS.

The motor is simply connected between the 2 pairs of batteries which one set are in series and the other 2 batteries  are connected in parallel. After 1 hr I stopped the motor and I connected all four batteries in parallel again to equalize the voltages and found a 0.1 volt gain in all four batteries. Started the test again and after 1 more hour run time and evening out the battery voltages again I recorded another 0.1 volt gain. So now all four batteries were at 12.5 volts 

One has to be very careful with measurements here of course so much more testing will be required. I think that since the Tesla 4 battery arrangement doesn't use(lose I should say) any power while running the newman motor then anything the motor manages to kick out in high voltage spikes will get captured by the batteries.

[pg46]

Hi sugra-

Yeah, I had tried the 3 battery set up as well a few months back now and wasn't successful either. The 4 battery set up seems to have more potential in my opinion or at least it is easier. There are a couple of concepts to it though. One idea is the rapid switching method which is meant to harldy give the electrons a chance to move. I tried a rapid switching method but I think it was too slow yet and was unsuccessful and therefore my batteries depleted over time.
The other concept is that of simply moving the energy from one container to the other and using the power along the way. Kind of like pouring water from one container into the next and using the water to spin a paddle wheel while doing it and just repeating the proccess over and over again, back and forth using the same water.
With my newman type motor here I can't yet  get it to gain in voltage while only on one battery but instead only just slowly depletes over time. In the 4 battery set up it runs and runs with even some  'questionable' small gain but it might possibly be a self runner. It would take a long tme to test it properly however.
I need to work on this comutator business though. Mine is pretty dodgy although I seem to get nice sparks from using tungsten rod and copper as materials. I will keep working on it.

Regards,

[Dingus Mungus]

I still believe that replacing the batteries with cap banks would be a better proof.
There are lots of variables that can affect batteries, like thermal effects in voltage.
Don't get me wrong you reported a voltage increase and I believe you, but skeptics
and the world of physics in genral can't dismiss a steady voltage increase in device
like you descibed if the batteries were cap banks. Just an idea...

Thanks for all your efforts,
~Dingus Mungus

[pg46]

Dingus Mungus

Yeah I agree 100%. Batteries are real tricky to measure for a variety of reasons. They can either lose or even gain in voltage after sitting some time. Some say for true measurements one has to leave them alone overnight before taking readings.
It should be noted here that I never said I got a gain with only a single battery. I hope some of the others have or will manage to pull that one off.
Now where did I put those 80 large capicitors to build a bank...hmmmm?...I know they are around here somewhere ....

Best,