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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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bob.rennips

Great to have you here, Bob Boyce.

Your projects with hydrogen generation are legendary!  That broken diode on the alternator that started it all off - are you able to give us the idea behind why the broken diode was causing the extra power anomaly you observed ?

As far as I could see the pulses from two of the 3 phase coils would each be fed back as DC pulse spikes into the coil with the broken diode.

With regards to phase could you expand on what aspect of the phase is important ?

Are we trying to get pulses exactly lined up ?
Sequentially staggered by a very small amount in time ?

My current thoughts are that the accurate physical placement of the coils in a circle is critical and that the phase timing is to do with how long it takes the magnetic field ( or is it electric field ?) from one coil to travel to the other coils. The idea being that the other coils are pulsed at exactly the right time to coincide with a certain point of the magnetic/electric waveform that is going past the coil. Question is what point in the waveform !!?

Thanks, Bob Rennips

Bob Boyce

Quote from: bob.rennips on July 01, 2007, 01:11:11 PM
Great to have you here, Bob Boyce.

Your projects with hydrogen generation are legendary!  That broken diode on the alternator that started it all off - are you able to give us the idea behind why the broken diode was causing the extra power anomaly you observed ?

As far as I could see the pulses from two of the 3 phase coils would each be fed back as DC pulse spikes into the coil with the broken diode.

With regards to phase could you expand on what aspect of the phase is important ?

Are we trying to get pulses exactly lined up ?
Sequentially staggered by a very small amount in time ?

My current thoughts are that the accurate physical placement of the coils in a circle is critical and that the phase timing is to do with how long it takes the magnetic field ( or is it electric field ?) from one coil to travel to the other coils. The idea being that the other coils are pulsed at exactly the right time to coincide with a certain point of the magnetic/electric waveform that is going past the coil. Question is what point in the waveform !!?

Thanks, Bob Rennips

Hello Bob

I'm sorry, I did not mean to disrupt this thread. There are many that do not agree with my interpretations or terminology. If you would like, we can take this to another thread so we do not disturb a work in progress. Just send me a PM and let me know what thread.

Bob

ronotte

Hi Bob,

it's really a pleasure to have you here, you are wellcome! It's a great honor and I do hope you'll help all of us to clear the fog that's still covering mostly of the clear ground.

Roberto

ronotte

@Darren,

thanks for your simulation Darren, it seems that the peak frequency summation is really equal to reality. What I don't see is:

- by product of freqs heterodying ... could you try to just offset the freq values I gave You (like in actual operation...is difficult to centre the exact value) and see the effects?

- signal difference by Phase and Zero point against the ground: on Zero point you should see mostly spike waveform on the first quadrant and the signal are of two kinds: RE spikes and single big spikes between 2 subsequent RE spikes. On Phase point the waveforms are mainly on 4th quadrant and are composed by a sine wave part (initial part)  and a spike part to -600 - 800V, the beginning  (the first -40V) is generally a partial sine wave ...just have a look at my paper.

Please if you need any clarification don't hesitate to contact me.

Hope you will find the time to do that kind of search!

Roberto




Mannix

Quote from: ronotte on July 01, 2007, 05:24:39 PM
@Darren,

thanks for your simulation Darren, it seems that the peak frequency summation is really equal to reality. What I don't see is:

- by product of freqs heterodying ... could you try to just offset the freq values I gave You (like in actual operation...is difficult to centre the exact value) and see the effects?

- signal difference by Phase and Zero point against the ground: on Zero point you should see mostly spike waveform on the first quadrant and the signal are of two kinds: RE spikes and single big spikes between 2 subsequent RE spikes. On Phase point the waveforms are mainly on 4th quadrant and are composed by a sine wave part (initial part)  and a spike part to -600 - 800V, the beginning  (the first -40V) is generally a partial sine wave ...just have a look at my paper.

Please if you need any clarification don't hesitate to contact me.

Hope you will find the time to do that kind of search!

Roberto






Darren,
yes to all Roberto said,

Thanks for your valuable input. I dont think any of us expected the simulation to take into account the interactions of the high speed field and its effect/interaction with its local environment.

However simulations are fantastic for good circuit design. and a valuable tool in context.Thanks again.

Bob!
I hope that you see fit make an ecd or two with us as well..

BTW I have found that 15" allows more room to experiment.
I have 15"and 13" superglued to rubber oil cooler hose, and spaced with cable ties...

many combinations give light.some are very abrupt! ..It would seem to be better if we could seperately drive the coils ...Its great to have a start point. it is a 3 cylinder engine where the intersection point of the frequencies cause acceleration .
like spinning a bicycle wheel

I have been wondering why (be careful) the units in the videos are started up first ..then the load is applied...
Remember Otto's burn up happened with no load as did mine 6 months ago with a seike type generator.

Any body still building,
make your mosfet /driver sections robust and individual. I suggest  a zener/cap clamp on the mosfet driver power supply.
It took me 3 goes to see  the value of seperating them.





Lindsay Mannix