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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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BEP

#680
July 02, 2007, 09:26:47 PM
It shouldn't be long before folks realize there are many ways to get juice. The thing that will take a while is 'how to do it in a controlled and reliable way'.

I am still working on mine when not at work. I already have a pipe-dream and got burnt, literally. Sales for aluminum tubing and headphone extension cables will go up for a short while.
Even though I am probably known as one of the wilder ones, I still believe Otto is on the right track.

Bruce_TPU

#681
July 02, 2007, 10:09:33 PM
I am here at my partners, watching him solder away!  I told him I am not leaving his house until we fire the ECD up tonight!  LOL

I will post Pictures of course.

@ Mannix

Not to worry, some of us can multi task and play with pipes and ECD all in the same week!  ;)  And some of those bits in the pipes you will find, need to be in our friends TPU.

@ All
Much quicker if an electronics guy will build and sell the controllers.  Just a thought.

Happy Days!
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

turbo

#682
July 03, 2007, 01:45:13 AM
@ Watsup that thing looks great. :)

@ Mannix ,i am building, however it is not the Mobius design.
i could change it to that but i will try other things which came to mind first.

Marco.

ronotte

#683
July 03, 2007, 04:08:39 AM
@Wattsup,

neat realization, for any help please count on me.

Roberto

gn0stik

#684
July 03, 2007, 10:30:00 AM
Mannix, I see a lot of veiled references to brnbrade's setup. I know you suspect him of being a purposeful distraction, as well as BEP(Wavewatcher). Well, I know BEP, and I have to say, that I know that is not the case with him.

I have to agree that there may be nothing to the brnbrade coils. All we can do is test and find out. So far, most who are going to build Ronotte's/Ottos setup, have built it. And done some testing. There's a lot more to do.

I do disagree however with your assertion that brnbrades device is not related to the study of SM's TPUs. I think the study of two transformers "slightly out of phase, or connected in reverse of one another" is quite related. Especially when it is claimed overunity, and now, self-running. Those claims have yet to be independently verified, however.

Also, what was otto's device when he went from the 50 turns setup with a single control coil to two? I bet it looked quite similar to this aside from the fact that there is no collector.

Otto and brnbrade (as well as myself and others here) followed the erfinder posts and drew inspiration from them. Otto based some ideas off of the VTA, or DTO, diagram, and brnbrade off of the mcfarland cook patent. Have you noticed how similar they are?

I have to say, if Otto's device is related, then so is brnbrades.

Otto has made claims that his device loses weight, has inertia, etc. already, on ctglabs. when dave asked him more about it he didn't answer. Nobody else has seen this yet. And we've seen lots of behavior of otto's coil that are most definitely not present in SM's device. SM has no problem touching his coils, it's quite dangerous in otto's. Although there is RF in SM's judging by the fire output, there doesn't seem to be massive fields in the room. Much more testing needs to be done. Otto only has bits and pieces of the whole picture. Others will have other parts.

Otto has already said his device is not overunity. From all accounts, that is correct. It's not. No thunder is being stolen, but we have to look at other angles in order to find the missing pieces that will make it overunity.

Have that thread moved back. It's a valid line of research and is clearly NOT disrespectful to SM. And is NOT distracting from Ottos work. They are very closely related, if you look closer.. 

Regards,
Rich
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