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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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tao

Quote from: otto on July 14, 2007, 12:54:18 PM
Hello tao,

Im refering to people that are only wrighting and wrighting but wrighting crap.

In this forum there are 3 groups of people:

1. the theorists

you tao gave us as the first the points how a TPU works, and a lot of good theorists that helps us. This was very helpful because in the beginning we didnt know what and how....

2. the workers

GK, Roberto....and a lot of people building and trying to use your ideas and of course thinking a lot of the theories too

3.PC heroes

this people are f...g the forum and all us. They are "working" on the theories but never builded even 1 coil. But the point is that they think to have the right to critisise everyone here. They know "everything", pisses on all the work done .....

Otto


I see, and I agree...

I have seen some of these PC heroes myself lol. They come in here with a real EGO too, when the sole function of ALL of OUR combined work is to merely get a TPU working and then given away to all. There should be no EGO involved...


Earl

Quote from: otto on July 14, 2007, 11:35:35 AM
Hello all,
What do you understand under the therm of  "Lamp wire"????
Is this a 2 stranded kable or can this be something else???
The more answers the better.
Otto

Otto,
in Europe lamp cable is the 220 Volt two conductor cable, usually with 0.75mm*mm cross section.  Sometimes you can also by it with 2x 1.5 mm*mm cross section.  The only difference between lamp cable and loudspeaker wire is maybe the voltage is guaranteed for lamp wire, but not for loudspeaker cable.

Whether lamp cable or loudspeaker cable, there are many fine strands of NON insulated copper wire.  While this is very flexible, it is not really good for high-frequency applications.

By high frequency, I mean greater than 5-10 kHz sine wave or ALL square waves.
For high-frequencies you must use Litz wire.  Litz wire is different to lamp wire or loudspeaker wire because each parallel conductor has insulation (Lackdraht) and only at the ends are they soldered together.  Litz wire also is twisted together. 

Be careful. Attention.  Achtung.  Germans have a tendency to not be exact when using the word Litze.  The wire you need is HF-Litze, such as Buerklin 89F180 - 184.  This is not the same as generic Litzen or Schaltlitze, these are the same as lamp cable.   

Otto, hope this helps.

Regards, Earl
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Quote from: tao on July 14, 2007, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: otto on July 14, 2007, 12:54:18 PM
Hello tao,

Im refering to people that are only wrighting and wrighting but wrighting crap.

In this forum there are 3 groups of people:

1. the theorists

you tao gave us as the first the points how a TPU works, and a lot of good theorists that helps us. This was very helpful because in the beginning we didnt know what and how....

2. the workers

GK, Roberto....and a lot of people building and trying to use your ideas and of course thinking a lot of the theories too

3.PC heroes

this people are f...g the forum and all us. They are "working" on the theories but never builded even 1 coil. But the point is that they think to have the right to critisise everyone here. They know "everything", pisses on all the work done .....

Otto


I see, and I agree...

I have seen some of these PC heroes myself lol. They come in here with a real EGO too, when the sole function of ALL of OUR combined work is to merely get a TPU working and then given away to all. There should be no EGO involved...



Maybe it would be a good idea to expose who these "pc heros" are so they know and can stop doing what they are doing.

That would help the forum I guess.

It might be said that "they" know who they are...but I am sure that some don't.

giantkiller

On another note:
@The advanced builder dudes,
Maybe we should all feel tremendously flattered that we make it look so easy to the un-initiated and that greater things are expected from us. :D

I have to depart for the beach now. I am expected to walk on water.

-giantkiller.

gn0stik

Quote from: giantkiller on July 14, 2007, 02:12:02 PM
On another note:
@The advanced builder dudes,
Maybe we should all feel tremendously flattered that we make it look so easy to the un-initiated and that greater things are expected from us. :D

I have to depart for the beach now. I am expected to walk on water.

-giantkiller.

Take the antigravity coils out of your shoes and sit down. If we are successful there will be no room for skepticism, but there will still be these who come along and expect more from us. That is just the way of the world. People expect us to build for them, personally. People come here, and expect to be project managers, when they themselves have yet to even read all the material. Everyone thinks they have something important to add, and in their opinion, invariably it's more important than anything that has yet been offered. Somehow they think that their perspective, or their take on this or that, has not been thoroughly discussed, because if it had we'd agree with them. Or that their particular brand of skepticism or optimism is better than what has been presented in the past, and that we will drop everything and give up, or follow them to success.

There are a few who come and offer something of value, but they usually do it, and sit by quietly. They do it without bravado, they do it without ego. They do it, and are simply usually just reporting their personal experience. There is the rare helpful, productive person who is also very outspoken and energetic. But usually builders are quiet, introspective, studious, and prefer to spend more time in their lab than online. This can lend itself to critisism. Not completely unfounded, either. Communication is critical. But it's just part of their nature.

Don't get me wrong, everyone has ego, and it can always be a source of turbulence. But most builders and contributors know when to put it on hold, in spite of the temporary lapses everyone has.

These PC Heros, or Trolls, are only fed because of OUR egos folks. It is not their responsibility to shut up. It's our responsibility to ignore them. Do you really think that these people who are being disruptive purposefully will realize their moral obligation to leave us alone? Ridiculous, they will keep on. So it's our responsibility to deny them the fuel they need to go on. If our egos are injured by them, we just need to ignore them. It's also Stefan's responsibility to remove them so we can work. This is all easier said than done. That's why I started gn0sis. To have a place where threads were moderated. But it kinda died out because most people come here. Oh well, no big deal.

Nice work Roberto, Otto, et al.

Rich