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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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kokomoj0

#70
June 12, 2007, 08:24:24 PM
Quote from: btentzer on June 12, 2007, 03:19:13 PM
@ Kokomojo and others

I am a NON electronic guy who spent about $18.00 to replicate Otto's work.  It took about 30 minutes to build the collectors and tonight I post some pics.

So my point is this.  Just spend a few bucks, wind the coil and help us out.  Test it, retest it, experiment with it, post it.  You guys have all of this knowledge and experience, so just BUILD IT!  ;)

No excuses, or reasons, just build it, and post.  Pretty simple.. LOL

I do encourage you all in a friendly way!

Cheers,
Bruce


Haha!

Nah not me, you are right 18 bucks and i would be off and putzing hours and months and centuries.  Nope not me.  It would be different if i were not so skeptical.   That and i did just build it but on a project i can go into with a great level of faith.  i am working on the hydrogem projects because i have confidence they will provide the expected outcome.

Like i said i will get excited on this once we know the watts in versus the watts out using an unquestionably true rms measurement of the input and the output via recified filtered output and the input.

THEN i will get excited!

Until then i am in a holding wait and see pattern.   i assure you i will build one within 1 day of proving it out with the data i requested.

Thaelin

#71
June 12, 2007, 08:27:07 PM
   Just made a trip to Norvak again. Same issues, no parts. Have to go with what was close in the book. Transistors are 500v  20v gate   14amp. No gate drivers at all. None of them had a clue at to what they were and they work there?. Will have to order them via net. Thinking of using a cmos schmidt trigger with a 15v rail voltage. By toneing down the signal input it should switch ok for the moment, at least until the drives get here.
   Other than that should have everything to get going tonite for a small test. Ahh yes and a roll of alum screen for the cage.

   Will be batt powered and read with analog meters on both sides.

sugra

z_p_e

#72
June 12, 2007, 08:43:51 PM
Lindsay and all,

If it is wrong to question and doubt, then it is also wrong to blindly accept something as true.

Have you made the device and done the measurements? Are you 100% confident they are flawless? Have you simply accepted what someone told you as the truth, when there is little evidence to support that claim?

Perhaps you should ask yourselves this...would you bet your house on it? If not, then think again.

Darren

kokomoj0

#73
June 12, 2007, 08:46:47 PM
Quote from: Mannix on June 12, 2007, 08:15:16 PM
Quote from: btentzer on June 12, 2007, 03:19:13 PM
@ Kokomojo and others

I am a NON electronic guy who spent about $18.00 to replicate Otto's work.  It took about 30 minutes to build the collectors and tonight I post some pics.

So my point is this.  Just spend a few bucks, wind the coil and help us out.  Test it, retest it, experiment with it, post it.  You guys have all of this knowledge and experience, so just BUILD IT!  ;)

No excuses, or reasons, just build it, and post.  Pretty simple.. LOL

I do encourage you all in a friendly way!

Cheers,
Bruce

Bruce,

Good one! you sound like me  ha!



I sometimes feel that people should either build it or be silent..the results will speak for themselves...but when will the doubters,who have never created anything, stop speaking?

The onus is on you to build it...Thats it 

If this was all fantasy...what a wonderful one....however what if it isint and never was ....what have you got to lose ...nobody ever wanted your money. That my friends is what many people cannot comprehend and that is quite sad. let's hope that we are really ready for this.  Mankind that is..

Hey Kind man...Man kind...see it?

Believe it ...do it...Its still early days

Dont sit in your corner and spruke your doubts ..it is old and boring now.

Bring something to this! You will feel better!
A few kind men have shown some keys to a gate..
The doubters should start a doubtfest on another thread!

love ya all

Lindsay Mannix

Hey lets be fair about this.   

Would you accept a car without kicking the tires first?   How many of these things have turned out to be either incorrect measurements or out right fraud?   You want me and others to believe just because you do?  What bank is going ot give you a loan because you waltz in and announce you can pay them back?  Its never going to happen till they do a credit check and make sure you are employed.

If you feel that asking for a simple 5 minute to setup rms test is asking for to much then how do you expect any credible engineer to believe you?

You make a lot of assumptions since i assure you that many out here have "built" several projects.

I neither believe nor do i disbelieve.

All i am asking for is some good input output data to chew on and you want to demonize the process with hyperbole.  i think that is simply the wrong approach and frankly failure to provide such simple data speaks volumes to any engineer out here.  unfortunately not positive volumes.

Bruce_TPU

#74
June 12, 2007, 08:58:43 PM
Hey guys, no one is saying to believe anything.  We are saying,
"BUILD IT YOURSELF and answer your own questions!"

This is less than a week old!  We will experiment and tweak and enjoy.  SO CHILL, and build.  If you do not want to build, then wait patiently for your answers when someone gets to answering it.  Relax...sip a cool one....and be patient.  If patience is not for you, then build your own.  Even I can do it!  ;)  LOL

I for one am thinking about how not to get fryed, not too worried about your question at the moment!   ;D

Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.
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