empty promises

[ResinRat2]

If there was an effective, easy, safe way to save ourselves from our impending energy crisis, we would have found it by now. I know that laws can bend, and things change over history, but we are at a point where the current model if physics is so complete (with the exception of a unified theory), that only minute changes here and there are possible.
---- Quote by Sataure

Reminds me of: "If man could fly, he would have wings."

and before the Michaelson-Morely experiment, physicists thought they had it all figured out with the ether that surrounded us. Until the experiment showed there was NO ether. Then came Einstein and his theory, and the whole of old physics was thrown into Chaos.

Trouble is, Einstein had to assume that the speed of light was constant in order to explain the M/M experiment.  Do you still believe that the speed of light is constant? Many scientists no longer do, so this throws even more Chaos into the mix.

My point is, there is no firm evidence that the current model of physics IS complete. In fact, there are so many anomalies that are still unexplained that you can't ignore the fact that there is so much more we humans need to learn about our universe.

Therefore, my mind is not closed to research in this direction, unlike some others who post here. Just because you cannot see the definitive proof now, doesn't mean you will never see it in the future. So closed a mind can never see mankind expand into the universe that surrounds us.

Unlimited energy is not a curse, it is a harnessing of power. The power to dream, explore, and expand beyond our earthly borders. Mars is closest, and if you search on the net you will find organizations that have rational, science-based ideas on how to terra-form that planet for human habitation.

I work in research every working day. I can assure you we do not know everything about the universe. I also believe in the Research process to find the TRUTH that surrounds us, as long as your mind is open to the truth.

Sorry Sataure, you are wrong. Thankfully many humans never had your defeatist mindset throughout history. We would still be living in caves and eating with our bare hands, blaming the guy next door for stealing our backyard rabbits and other food sources, and never discovering the beauty of Calculus.

[IronHead]

I think  what was meant by all of this is that unlimited power is not the cure all. Yes there are many technologies throughout the last 100 years that could give everyone on this planet free power to do as they will . Just like free water and what once was, free dirt to plant in. But I am not sure that will cure the world of it massive over use of all things they consume. I might be wrong but this is how I read into what Sataurë was trying to say . though many points go way overboard. As ResinRat has cleanly pointed out.

[HopeForHumanity]

I think physics is great and is a great model for inventions, however, physics is only temporary and is always some how having to be changed because some brilliant man invented something that disproved it. Thats why physics SHOUDN"T ALWAYS be trusted for everything. You assume the carnival will have some clowns, but sometimes thats not the case, and plus, don't assume every clown will be funny.....(i don't want to get into that )

[4REAL]

All righty then I am sorry I have not been able to post again until now but as I said I am   a painter and I work in a resort town full of America's wealthiest entrepreneurs and they all want there house finished and painted yesterday. You know just like the first impression I myself made with my first posting. GIMI GIMI GIMI.

I have Sunday off but I still do not have the time to respond the way I would like, to every issue or question raised in this one small thread. There is a huge wealth of information here @ over unity dot com. It would take a very long time just to look over a small portion.

I have a project that I had already started before I signed up here. I promised free unlimited use of it to a friend of mine, a very talented musician. So I have to finish that. When I do I will probably undertake the making of a motor driven mechanical switch for pulsing D.C. current. This device would enable the user to use what ever voltage they wanted at what ever amperage they wanted and enable the user to vary the pulse frequency by simply speeding up or slowing down the drive motor. Would this device have practical applications in Hydrogen generation experiments?

I do not want to start any political debates and that can be very difficult when we talk about energy in todays world. I believe that there are turn key solutions that would serve the common persons energy needs. But just think of what it would mean if you or I came up with a device that would enable the common working person to convert there car and home to run on tap water. It would crush the most powerful and most profitable industry in the world today. In turn it could bring world PEACE and that would crush the second most powerful and profitable industry in the world today, the industrial military complex. THEYwill never let that happen, not easily!

One thing THEY do not take into account and that is,

"that there are three things that can not be concealed for long, the Sun, the Moon and the truth!"
                      Buddha

See you soon

With Compassion
4REAL

[Sataur]

Well politics aside from water-fuel and hydrogen technologies, we first have to have a replicative, efficient model before we have to worry about anything.

Even if we did find an efficiency over 100, it would have to be quite a bit greater over 100% before it would be efficient and practical to go into mass production. One must think about the energy it takes to gather, refine, and assemble materials to create a finished product, and if the energy it takes to produce the device or appliance is greater than the energy produced by said device within the mean operable time frame (that is to say, the amount of time the device is predicted to operate before malfunction), then the device is no longer a viable source of new energy.

You also have to think about availability of materials. If we suddenly found a new device that produced a lot of power but also used a lot of copper or neodymium (quite a difficult material to refine and find), then the cost of materials would increase dramatically as the demand increases, just like what happened to oil over the years. Instead of Exxon and other powerful oil companies, we will have new powerful companies based around the copper or neodymium industries.

So you see, even if we seem to have solved a problem by developing new technologies based upon certain materials, new problems with greed and control will arise around the new industries.

Again, the only viable way to stop this cycle would be to stop consuming so much and reduce our dependencies upon material goods.

Now, perhaps new discoveries will lessen the effects of greed and power that we have today in the oil economy, but ultimately the cycle will continue again.

Just my two cents.