Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters

[mike3]

So maybe all these machines are bunk. Not surprising, considering each has their own "pet" theory of physics that would have to be true for the device to work and all these "pet" theories are mutually contradictory -- while the Universe knows only one physics. However, what I'm wondering is this: what happens if one were to bring real science to bear on trying to discover whether or not a real source of "free" energy (actually, more like a source of energy that is not any of the "conventional" types, e.g. fossil fuels, nuclear, solar, wind, etc.) actually exists or not? Has anyone given a serious and dedicated scientific effort with real scientific knowledge and methods to once and for all answer this?

(This is for "zpfe", by the way.)

[Nabo00o]

So maybe all these machines are bunk. Not surprising, considering each has their own "pet" theory of physics that would have to be true for the device to work and all these "pet" theories are mutually contradictory -- while the Universe knows only one physics. However, what I'm wondering is this: what happens if one were to bring real science to bear on trying to discover whether or not a real source of "free" energy (actually, more like a source of energy that is not any of the "conventional" types, e.g. fossil fuels, nuclear, solar, wind, etc.) actually exists or not? Has anyone given a serious and dedicated scientific effort with real scientific knowledge and methods to once and for all answer this?

(This is for "zpfe", by the way.)

Normal physics and science can't even explain half of the experienced phenomans that happens today. And when they can't explain it, they pretend it doesn't exist. That normal procedure. And if that won't work , and the practical exeriments that are done seems to convincing they just call the scientist or inventor who has discovered the new effects for a crank. Its that easy. And then they have ruined his life, as a credible scientist at least. And these reactions and "procedures" have been with us since the birth of science.
What's the reason to this then? Is it a huge conspiracy? No, its just plain ego, nothing more and nothing less...

[mike3]

Normal physics, as you call it, does explain more than "half" of experienced phenomena. Tell me some examples of these phenomena that "normal" physics "doesn't" explain. Stuff like the so-called "dark matter"? Well guess what! Scientists ADMIT "normal" physics does not explain it! That's why it's called a "mystery"!

"Zpfe" spent lots of time testing these machines using honest and rigorous methods and found them not to work. That's because he used real scientific methods designed to minimize the possibility of false results.

[Nabo00o]

Normal physics, as you call it, does explain more than "half" of experienced phenomena. Tell me some examples of these phenomena that "normal" physics "doesn't" explain. Stuff like the so-called "dark matter"? Well guess what! Scientists ADMIT "normal" physics does not explain it! That's why it's called a "mystery"!

"Zpfe" spent lots of time testing these machines using honest and rigorous methods and found them not to work. That's because he used real scientific methods designed to minimize the possibility of false results.

If he hopes for some magical results suddenly giving him free energy forever thats being a little optimistic.
Bedini has done alot of buliding and thinking on his own, but the main ideas behind his machines is based on previous inventors and researchers like Nikola Tesla and Edwin Gray, to name a few. Even if he has done alot of work, its basically telling the world again about these discoveries, and what the implementation of these into our modern technology could do to change our world forever.
I'd wish someone could actually invite bedini to write in this or another tread about his invention and why it works, and mabye he could even have given us a video of it, demonstrating its ability to power more than what was presumably put into it. What we have now around the world for the most part is induvidual people who tries to replicate it as best they can, but if Bedini could give a real clear demonstration of it working then mabye the sceptics could begin to shut up.

I know, still all of this (and most on overnuity too) is only a bunch of words, they don't prove much, but they can help.
We can hope that mabye bedini has the time to respond to my wish, as I'm sure it would have strengthen his view.

[mike3]

The point is that if the device works as claimed you should be able to detect the greater energy using genuine scientific method. In addition, you should be able to plug the out to the in and get it to accelerate itself, or at the very least keep on going and not slow down like what happens when you have a wheel and give it a push with your hands.