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electricity saver

Started by lancaIV, June 26, 2007, 08:27:41 AM

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lancaIV

https://www.alamy.com/tang-zhenping-drives-his-wind-powered-electric-car-in-tongzhou-beijing-china-19-may-2012-a-chinese-farmer-has-invented-a-wind-powered-electric-image263801069.html


seeing this :                   19 May 2012

https://www.wimp.com/a-chinese-farmer-has-invented-a-wind-powered-electric-car/

question 1. related        The model has a top speed of 70mph (113kph). 

                                   rated KW electric drive ?


             2.  related       When the car reaches 40mph (64kph), the blades spring into action and begin generating pollution-free power.


                                   average wind turbine output ?


https://overunity.com/2238/cheap-wind-farming/ Reply #5 double windings application /generator coating ?


A wind turbine with a nominal 400 W (manufacturer's specification) generated at a wind force of approx. 20 m / sec. an output of 70 watts.
After converting the generator to combined windings,
the system delivered with a wind force of 5-6 m / sec. 140 watts. At 10-12 m / sec. were generated over 320 watts!



same questions : https://www.3dsystems.com/blog/2015/09/american-wind-may-have-changed-future-electric-cars


                               Yost believes that his Wind Wall of MicroCubes will generate 2,800 watts per hour
                               https://patents.google.com/patent/US9331534B2/en



                                            American Wind car with Porquer drive ?

                               The average consumption is of the order of IOOO wats per hour.

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1


       








      The average consumption is of the order of IOOO wats per hour.


      Yost believes that his Wind Wall of MicroCubes will generate 2,800 watts per hour




https://www.quora.com/Why-do-cars-especially-electric-cars-not-incorporate-small-turbines-to-generate-electricity




Amory Lovins "Hypercar" https://rmi.org/insight/hypercars-faq/  to the Non-Plus-Ultra-car


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we read :  The average consumption is of the order of IOOO wats per hour.


https://www.hyundai.com/worldwide/en/company/newsroom/hyundai-kona-electric-sets-range-record-of-1%2C026-kilometers-0000016507


The drive teams – one from the renowned German trade magazine Auto Bild and two from Hyundai Motor Deutschland – recorded an average speed between 29 and 31 km/h to reflect typical inner-city traffic speeds in Europe.
On the third day, the vehicles managed to cover over 20 km with only 3 percent residual capacity.
At zero percent charge, the vehicles continued to drive for several hundred meters before running out of power and coming to a stop.



                         average speed between 29 and 31 km/h to reflect typical inner-city traffic speeds

The Porquer transmission drive per 100 Kilometers consume can be : 1 KWh/30 Km = 3,33 KWh/100 Km



                                       = 50% consume per 100 kilometer  of


A.  https://www.hyundai.com/worldwide/en/company/newsroom/hyundai-kona-electric-sets-range-record-of-1%2C026-kilometers-0000016507
Each distance also represents a record in terms of 64 kWh battery capacity, as the power consumption figures of 6.28, 6.25 and 6.24 kWh per 100 km

B.         https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/en/press-releases/range-record-id3-makes-the-journey-from-zwickau-to-switzerland-on-a-single-charge-6334

C. https://www.news18.com/news/auto/tesla-model-s-creates-new-world-record-with-1000-km-drive-on-a-single-charge-model3-model-3-model-3-mileage-1485813.html


so,conclusion,not a wonder-transmission,but efficient ! ;) 8)    Hyundai/Tesla/ID.3/4 weight :  1600-1800 Kg  !


Porquer comparison :


A vehicle with a differential crown gear

39/8,i.e. a reduction of 4.875, and a wheel development of 1.65 metre, studied for a variation in the amount of

event with a mass of 1000 kgs from 0 to 100 kms per hour in I9 seconds, can be chosen here as a parameter.

ic engine car mass - ic-engine + Porquer transmission = -+ 800-900 Kg = 1/2 or 50%  Hyundai/Tesla/VW weight






ic engine car to electric motor car conversion,City-version (!) :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1

                                 A car with an electric motor (1500 watts, 4000 revolutions / minute)


                                 weight/velocity !?

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2021-EEC-NEW-Left-Right-Hybrid_1600114347143.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_image.66197878vMaPNA


                                   Power:     72V 1000w/1200w


                                  weight/velocity !?




                                  3 KWh electric/100 Km City-drive consume will become in future standart : autonomous car drive !

lancaIV

https://web.archive.org/web/20150227003750/http://engineair.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18&Itemid=12


Affordable, sustainable and non-polluting vehicles will create new employment opportunities and improved urban life style, we can produce vehicles for everyone in the world with considerable less impact on the environment, there's no need for the vehicle to be small but just constructed more intelligently and lighter, style and comfort will still be included.
There's definitely no need for us to accelerate to 100 km in 3 seconds, I am sure most of us will be happy to begin our journey10 second earlier and still get there at the some time.
Considering that a HP is the equivalent power of a mature horse and that statistics shown that a horse of 600 Kg is capable to reach speed of up to 88 Km h, this clearly shows that current vehicles with engines around 300 HP are just a wast of precious resources.
Based on the above you can see that with Engineair technology is possible to power a vehicle using
up  to 100 times less energy than current vehicles, and we can do so with out burning any fuel.








Convention compact class ic-engine car :  6 liter gasoline/ 100 Km = 60 000 Wh fuel/100 Km = 600 Wh/Km fuel energy consume



Hyundai electric car shows 63 Wh/Km electricity consume = 6,3 KWh/100 Km = 63 Wh/Km electric energy consume by 29-31 Km/h urban average speed
https://www.hyundai.com/worldwide/en/company/newsroom/hyundai-kona-electric-sets-range-record-of-1%2C026-kilometers-0000016507


Extreme(in vehicle volume/consume) :
https://pratt.duke.edu/about/news/duke-student-team-wins-second-guinness-world-record-vehicle-efficiency
race speed of 6.7m/s = 24,1 Km/h speed
797 (land-)miles to Kilometer = 797 x 1,61 = 1283 Km/KWh = 1283 meters/Wh = 0,78 Wh/Km




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World record design concept (less space volume extreme : open space ) as "urban commuter concept" :


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_C5
The vehicle's limitations – a short range, a maximum speed of only 15 miles per hour (24 km/h)


Electric motor      250 W (0.34 hp)
The C5 is powered by a 12-volt lead–acid electric battery driving a motor with a continuous rating of 250 watts and a maximum speed of 4,100 revolutions per minute.


changed by 1x 4 micro motors transmission  or 2x 4 micro motors transmission couple

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19951107&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A

In general, for conventional motors of 1 HP and 3 HP, the power consumptions are 746 W/H and 2238 W/H. These motors can be operated at high speed with low output torque or operated at low speed with larger torque, no matter how it operates, the power consumptions thereof are respectively 746 W/H and 2238 W/H.

(   ..... the power consumptions thereof are respectively 746 W/H and 2238 W/H. ......      by theoretical  100% conversion efficiency  ???  )

In comparison, when a DC 12 V mini motor with full load capacity 25 g, 560 mA, running at 13340 rev./min is used, a plurality of such motors can be assembled and operated in association with a suitable number of down-speed gear sets so as to obtain proper operation speed.


The power consumptions thereof in the same conditions as above, are compared with the conventional motors to conclude that at most only one eleventh of the power consumed in above cited motors is required.




and the fractional-hp motors feed by


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940318&CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3


Operation As we explained in the description and by the drawing this circuit is composed of couples of 2 coils (wound with nickel silver wire resistivity 30) which will allow us better than the copper of lower resistivity of barely 1.56 to make advance together the voltages and amperages (all couples are numbered).

The primary current is supplied by a small alternator (currently used to provide lighting for bicycles at barely 6 volts and Oa, 35 or an electromotive force of 2 watts, 15.

Our first work will therefore be to increase the amperage (more powerful therefore the greater electromotive force) torque n "1 We will therefore bring the winding of the coil 10 (inductor coil) to 9 meters by a nickel silver wire of 2 mm 6 in diameter or cross-sectional area of this wire of 5 mm2 30.

The resistance obtained will be 0.49 (in relation to the fact that a wire 15 m long of nickel silver 2 mm in diameter therefore 3 mm2 14 in section has a resistance of 1 ohm, 4).

The voltage being 6 volts we will obtain the amperage by dividing 6 by 0.49 which will make 14 amps (6 x 14 = 84 Watts) instead of 2.15 watts originally.

This coil transforming the soft iron bar into an electromagnet, the latter will therefore be much more powerful and will provide the 2 "induced coil with a stronger induction.

This new amperage (14a) was able to circulate in the winding wire of the induced coil thanks to the section of its wire which is 5 mm 3 and allows the 14 amperes to pass widely (3 amps at most can circulate per mm2 of wire section).

The second coil on the same soft iron bar (induced coil) will have a winding of 6 m instead of 9 which will decrease the voltage and bring it back to 4 volts the section of the wire being also reduced from 5 mm 3 to 4 mm 52, we will have a resistance of O ohm 38 by dividing the voltage by the resistance, an amperage of 12 amps.

It is this current of 4 volts by 12 amperes which will be transmitted to the first coil (inductor coil) of the next 20 couple which will have the double winding of the previous coil, i.e. 12 m at 6 so a voltage which will be increased to 8 volts a resistance of 0.66 therefore an amperage of 8: 0.66 = 12 a which will excite the electromagnet of the new couple.

The coil induced of this new couple with a winding of 15 mm for a section of 6.15 a resistance of O ohm 71 will bring the new current to 10 volts: 0.71 = 14 amperes which by the wire which connects them will excite the electromagnet circulating in the inductor coil of the last couple 30 of the series and we will end the series with a current brought to 14 volts and 16 a.




Calculation by assumption :


250 Watt rated/nominal / 0,8 (for 80% average conventional electric motor efficiency)


= 312,5 Wh/h consume by 20 Km range per hour or 1562,5 Wh/100 Km = 15,625 Wh/Km


x at most only one eleventh of the power consumed in above cited motors is required


= 15,625 Wh/Km /    11(one eleventh)              =                          +- 1,5 Wh/Km´

                                                                   compared  DUKEs ultra- " 0,78 Wh/Km "


                                                                           But by this stage : enginair
                              up  to 100 times less energy than current vehicles, and we can do so with out burning any fuel.
                                           600 Watth/Km 100 times less = 6 Wh/Km  with 1,5 Wh/Km REACHED !




divided Trilles amplifier  [ (14 Volt x 16 Ampere out)/ 2 Watt in ] ratio = (224 VA)2 Watt = > 100x


                                                so we get 1,5 Wh/Km divided 100 = 


                                0,015 Wh/Km electric power consume energetic storage need !


                              or             66.666 Km/KWh  by average 20 Km/h speed in city zone

                              compared      1283 Km/KWh  the Duke students world-record




12600 Km average drive range per annum/year = 12600 x 0,015 Wh/Km = 189 Wh/year city e-mobility consume

189 Wh/year basic input energy consume compared from 15% efficiency solar cell  210 000 Wh/year solar energy conversion gain (assumption : local 1400 KWh radiation) or


210 000 Wh/189 Wh = 1111 C5-LiYng Transmission-Trilles Amplifyer vehicles yearly consume sourced by 1 sqm solar modul its yearly average output

12600 Km/365 days = 35 Km per day  x 0,015 Wh/Km = 0,525 Watth/day e-mobility consume preview,   


                                                           0,000525 KWh/day


Such a C5(Seifenkiste/soapbox) with 2021 production price calculation to endconsumer price :


the C5 (  Kerb weight 30 kg (66 lb) without battery )  excluding motor :  250 Euros

+ 75 Euros LiYng Transmission(included 4 micro motors)

+ 75 Euros Trilles Amplifier
 
+ 100 Euros/battery and charger =






                                                        total a 500 Euros City/Urban Zone e-mobil 

                                                         " .....  original retail value of £399 .... "

          clearly : LiYng Transmission and Trilles Amplifyer also usefull as e-bike drive ,city-e-bike-share ( < 1 Euro per day lease !?)

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/36v-250w-Electric-Bicycle-High-Quality_1600229891250.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.2ccd2c92U7vx9z&s=p


                                           rated/nominal 250 Watt and  :o  max speed : > 50 Km/h


The speed:
The WLTP includes higher speeds of up to 131 km / h. The average speed is 46.5 km / h - around 13 km / h faster than the NEDC. This exposes the vehicles to greater fluctuations in speed.







other eco-mobile projects : 


  https://web.archive.org/web/20101107040910/http://omni.mcn.org/                  http://omni.mcn.org/ElectriLiteB/                                           
                     https://www.prismz.com/automite/

lancaIV

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Autonome-Autos-sollen-ab-2022-fahren-duerfen-article22568590.html

This gives autonomous drive technology and power savements the brealthrough .

With fully automated level four driving, the computer can take full control of the car for certain applications without being monitored by a human driver.


lancaIV

http://americanwindinc.com/

https://www.europeanceo.com/business-and-management/a-new-and-innovative-approach-to-harnessing-wind-energy/

https://alcse.org/the-american-wind-powered-car/

https://www.al.com/business/2018/10/alabama_inventor_creates_power.html


important numbers to calculate with :


1 KW output with 35 Km/h ( 22 mph ) velocity per windcube unit

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9331534B2/en

Electric vehicle market is ever growing, but struggling with issues of distance to be traveled with a single vehicle charge. Besides Tesla Automotive, most of the electric vehicles have a range of less than 50 miles on battery only. The micro wind turbine will fit nicely within the automotive market due its compact size. Micro wind turbines can be mounted externally on the roof of the car/truck or be integrated into the frame of the vehicle.


The typical electric vehicle uses about 3 kilo watts of power at the maximum power draw.
Some embodiments of a single micro wind turbine can generate up to one (1) kilo watt of power.


Thus, in those embodiments, four micro wind turbines can be mounted on the roof or internally to create up to four (4) kilo watts of power exceeding the maximum requirements of an electric vehicle.






https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/4-Seats-Electric-Vehicle-With-Air_60775451614.html?spm=a2700.details.0.0.4311678a4sHjFy


Max speed:
50-60 Km/h


Power:
4000w

8-12 KWh power consume per 100 Km


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8-12 KWh to  "average 10 KWh consume per 100 Km" = 3,5 KWh consume per 35 Km by 35 Km/h = 1 hour drive


when 1 windcube with 35 Km/h gives 1 KWh energy generation per hour,with 4 windcubes on tect we get 4 KWh per hour


                                 by 3,5 KWh electric motor consume per hour by 35 Km/h


...


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=102&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20090326&CC=US&NR=2009079393A1&KC=A1

My invention generated several times the power it consumes to operate and does so by an all electric means with no moving parts.


                            How many times the rated "automotive battery" Wh capacity ? 1x,1,5X,2x,...?












the chinese car their electric motor modification -power saver- modus :


Arestov double winding/Imris capacitive winding/Lam Dat winding;Meta C triphase motor winding


or new magnet array motor : https://www.voanews.com/silicon-valley-technology/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet



Mister Yost his windcube turbine coils with David Yurth generator coil coating






 

Question : with which average velocity an 1500 Watt rated electric motor  like here


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1


a conventional modified ex-internal combustion engine car  can become moved  ? average 20-25-30-35 Km/h ? City-velocity ?



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The autonomous urban car with on-board refuel system

lancaIV

Some information about evolution state,for comparison and applying :




1 KW wind turbine : the commercial average size ,high,minimum wind velocity for 1 KW output


https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&q=1kw+wind+turbine+kit&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjr-LP_9dzwAhUCxYUKHSFEAFsQ1QIwGHoECAwQAQ&biw=1366&bih=574


f.e.
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/1000W-vertical-axis-wind-turbine-home_1600228423391.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.5cf13022QE9jBa


rotor diameter : 2 metres = 79 inches on 2/3/4 wheels city-mobile ?  :o  min. wind velocity for 1 KW output ?

other example:
https://futurenergy.co.uk/domestic-wind-turbines/airforce1/   Rotor diameter: 1.8m = 71 inches

                                                 Rated wind speed: 12.5m/s = 45 Km/h

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufortskala%23:~:text%3DDie%2520Beaufortskala%2520%28Bft%29%2520ist%2520eine,beobachteten%2520Auswirkungen%2520des%2520Windes%2520basiert.


Do-it-yourself :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9TrUPoevXI  dimension ! and  1KW by 60 Km/h output
                                                                          generates 130 watts mechanical in a 30 km/h wind


                                                   compression :

http://americanwindinc.com/  9 in(ches) x 9 in x 9 in each turbine/electric converter  as rated 1 KW unit

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYaFh80yuNQ   0:41+




compressed power :

http://www.arestov.de/index.php/de/elektromotoren/windenergie
Example: A wind turbine with a nominal 400 W (manufacturer's specification) generated at a wind force of approx. 20 m / sec. an output of 70 watts.
After converting the generator to combined windings, the system delivered with a wind force of 5-6 m / sec. 140 watts.
At 10-12 m / sec. were generated over 320 watts!


Fill this above Arestov modified combined double coils numbers values in https://rechneronline.de/windkraft/ 

Compare with over the net available commercial 400 W windturbine data ! rotor diameter/radius







https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2021-EEC-NEW-Left-Right-Hybrid_1600114347143.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_image.66197878vMaPNA


this 4wheels-car its rated motor power : 1000 W  and the car average/max.  velocity


ic-motobike to ebike : motor power and average/max. velocity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf31fQJVWOU + Robert Yost windcube !   




Americanwind  in competition : compared airpower /Israel Hirshberg the +- 100 KW sizes/weight


https://web.archive.org/web/20110817174850if_/http://www.airpower.co.il/PRODUCTS.htm
http://americanwindinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/MWW.pdf
http://americanwindinc.com/advanced-windwall/




btw:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYaFh80yuNQ          3d print object/project
https://www.3dsystems.com/learning-center/case-studies/micro-footprint-macro-output
American Wind uses 3D printing from 3D Systems' On Demand Manufacturing service, Quickparts, to defy 'bigger is better' argument for wind turbines.