TPU as a magnetic vortex generator

[bob.rennips]

@Robert,
The patent is old and there are much easier ways to do that now.
We could create a rotating field using say 10 coils wound onto a torroid fed from 10 mosfets connected to a decade counter, connected to a function generator.
Simple stuff, but I think SM managed to do it with just 2 control coils.

I need to order some more electronics parts this week so I will get some decade counters and divide by 'n' ICs too.
It should be a piece of cake to get the compass to spin but I think it needs to be done with two coils.
So you can have a rotating field in an electric motor but that is not the same as having a magnetic vortex.

http://home3.inet.tele.dk/hitower/vortex.htm

Rob

This is the confirmation I was looking for. A spinning magnet sets up a vortex! If it gonna be inter dimensional I don't know......
It seems that you need to setup a North and a Southpole. Could it be that the top ring sets up a north pole and the bottom ring a south pole? 

@BoB.Rennips
If the poles are on the top and bottom ring, would that give enough vertical component to the spinning field?

Anyone any idea how we can find out this angular treshold at which a vortex is created?

Regards

Robert

Robert,

Well here's the interesting thing.

Let's say the top ring gives a North pole and the bottom ring a South pole. That is both coils are wound in the same sense and have DC current applied in the same direction. i.e. The coils are identical and stacked one on top of the other.

I'm fairly sure that in an aircoil the magnetic field next to the coil is the strongest. So there will be a larger vertical magnetic component on the outside diameter than in the center. This is what you need for a vortex.

You only need a small magnetic field to separate rotating charges. So lets say positive charges go to the top and spin clockwise - this will generate a magnetic field which will enhance the existing top coil magnetic field. The negative charges will go to the bottom and spin ANTICLOCKWISE - this will ALSO generate a magnetic field which will enhance the existing bottom coil magnetic field.

So even with a weak starting vertical magnetic field, as long as you are introducing charged particles into the spinning magnetic field, you will start up a feedback loop, that will enhance the vertical aspect of the vortex, enhancing further the charge separation. These coils are also a form of penning trap that stop the particles from leaving. The higher the magnetic field, the less charges escape. So as soon as you reach the point where the number of particles escaping is less than the number being created/second, you reach an avalanche point, where the charges build up, creating larger and larger magnetic fields, which can of course be intercepted via induction for high voltage, high current DC output. On top of this DC output would be an AC component due to the pulsing used to spin the magnetic field.

Oh look, that's the same output as described my SM!

The speed of the spinning can be controlled by the frequency of pulsing, obviously.

Where can we get a source of charged particles ?  Radiant Energy ?  High voltage spark gap ?

Speed for vortex effects to manifest - well Victor Schaumberger achieved interesting results with spinning water. There is a physical limit as to how fast you can spin water I would think. So I would say a circuit that can pulse up to 50khz thats 750000 rpm! for 4 coils per revolution would be more than enough for a first experiment.

Go Robert. Be the first to create an interdimensional vortex!

Cheers ,bOB

[giantkiller]

Check out the date, read a little, make sure you discuss new ground. This is an old subject.
I even got in on this mouth race. I posted a side, cross section of the hurricane/tpu breaking the earth flux lines then creating a hole. Marco came over that and threw in a vortex through the center. I posted a water drain at full speed has a hole. But it all starts way before that.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,712.msg9048.html#msg9048

So if you look at this picture you can see that this unit is done ramping up by the lack of magnetic field in the middle. Does the matter or ions control the flow, predict the flow or follow the flow? I am sure this spins the other way in the south hemi. I've heard that there is even lightning in there and the people living under that TPU wish they could escape! One time I played God and reached down from the heavens and grabbed a hurricane, reaching into the middle, and moving it around hoping it would shake itself. You should have felt the lightning!

Same laws, different places. For those that haven't been here long you've missed alot of fun.

--giantkiller. Look alive. Some of us have desktop storms brewing. I guess the next step is to spin a magnet?

[jacob]

Rob,

Evidently, you won't be challenged on this subject. There is no doubt that a vortex is involved here. Like GK said, this has been an accepted fact for a while already. Still, I think that this thread is a good idea because we have to come back to basics.

By the way, I noticed that you didn't mention the following quote by Steven which is an additional confirmation of the existence of a vortex, considering that the imploding TV sets  have provide important clues in the development of the TPU:

He mentioned that some nails were actually removed from the walls and
pulled toward the TV set. When they found them they were bent and shaped like cork screws!

I also agree that the way to create this vortex is by rotating a magnetic field. As a matter of fact, here is an exerpt from one of my post dated September 28, 2006:

... Ok, now it should be obvious to all of us that what sets a tv set apart from a radio is the image, right? Well in order to produce this image you have to scan the screen horizontally and vertically. Magnetically, this is done with the deflection yoke which basically consist of 4 separate coils working in pair to produce two perpendicular magnetic fields. Fact is if you operate two resonant LC circuits perpendicularly with a slightly different frequency (and maybe with a  frequency difference of approx. 7.8 hz) you achieve two goals: you create a rotational magnetic field and you combine two out of phase signals into the same magnetic flux which according to SM can yield some interesting results...

To produce a vortex, I submit to you that we need 2 frequencies. One is the rotational frequency of the vortex, while the other is the vertical penetration speed. When these 2 frequencies are combined, the desired effect should take place. Or at least, the stage should be set for the phenomena to appear.

Regards,

Jacob

[hartiberlin]

As SM said here in Number 62:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2624.0;attach=10166

"Listen you need to make three coils or so one on top of the other.
But the important thing is to wrap the control coils perpendicularly around the
collector coils.
There need to be three of them all the way around.
Start them up one at a time each.
First frequency then second harmonic component into the second then the
third. "


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So I guess it is pretty easy.

As you know from tornados, the upper vortex part rotates slower and the deeper
you go the faster it rotates.

So as we have 3 collector coils, the upper control coilss on the upper collector coil
are fed with a slow rotating magnet field, ( e.g.from this posted shift register circuit)
the center ring control coils  are fed with the "second harmonic" of the upper one
( again via another  faster frequency shift register circuit)

and the lower
control coils of the lower ring are fed with at least  3 times the frequency.
( again via a 3rd faster frequency shift register circuit)

So then we have a stack of 3 collector coils that have from top to bottom a faster whirling spiral
magnet field which is in sync and which could trap and accelerate the earth magnetic field.

I guess this is very important to have this accelerating frequency setup.
Probably the setup could be enhanced, if you also make the diameter smaller
in the lower rings, so it acts as a real vortex which gets smaller diameter to the bottom.

[BEP]

May I suggest looking at Lorenz Orbits. Some have already achieved rotation, most if not all don't know it. Doing it right is the key to only part of the process.

Place a compass in the middle of your TPU. Send two signals in opposite directions. One in one coil - one in the other. Start with the same frequency and phase. Where the two signals aid one another you should have one pole and 180 out you should have the other pole. Vary the phase relationship between the two signals to experiment on moving the poles.
A Sine wave should be good enough to start. Noise is not usually a big problem for this experiment.

It may be easier to send the signals both in the same direction first.
Then think of how to do it with the signals injected into the control coils instead.

I think of this part as being like beam control on a CRT except I'm not trying to send in one direction. I'm trying to create a down-up oscillation. Kind of like slapping the water surface at a specific rythym.