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The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?

Started by Bruce_TPU, July 01, 2007, 12:14:40 AM

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BEP

Super inductor - negative inductive reactance - reductance. Yes, all of that and exactly as he says - a battery - galvanic, as well.

He also talks about multiple 'currents' and the way they travel and effect the others.

The rheostat ( a potentiometer with only the wiper and one end terminal - for those not familiar with the term ) is connected across the load point becasue if he breaks the circuit the feedback and oscillations die because there is no current flow. Then he must start it again.

Like all the old patents there are many things that can be interpreted incorrectly simply because the word or phrase meant something entirely different a hundred years earlier.

I pass dust when I build up pressure so maybe that is why I see these things. And when I found out that magnet wire -as we know it today-  wasn't invented until after this patent - I needed to pass more dust.

EMdevices

exactly BEP,

I just can't believe we get suckered into these old patents.  I mean if the thing was some sort of a promising technology it would have been all over the place by now, and it's not, why? because there are better things to store energy into than this thing.  Only nowadays do they research new materials and try to improve on these old ideas.

EM

BEP

I'm sure there were a share of shysters back then.

Who knows? Maybe he sold snake oil between patents to help people with consumption, gout and dropsy.

There also may be things 'assumed' in these old patents that are no longer assumable.

For example: At the time of this device it was common to use earth batteries. The most famous use was with telegraph stations. They would bury two cells creating a line pointing to true North. The vertical height difference between the buried cells was adjusted to creating a line following the local magnetic inclination.
There were wires ran between the cells but I havent seen clear diagrams.
The expected galvanic destruction of the cells didn't happen unless their placement was wrong. These arrangements were used in telegraph, pharmacies, doctor offices, blacksmiths and later - telephone.

The exact meaning of helice and coil have changed a bit also.

wattsup

@Guys

Geez I was just talking about this thread to someone else a few days ago and bingo, some are back here, I guess for the final round of Truth or Consequences.

I think EM is right that this device is a capacitor and may be used in conjunction with other components in a completed system. Maybe a cap for a dc motor, maybe to better catch flyback (notice I did not say BEMF - lol - shoot I just said it).

But the clincher question still remains "how the hell did Brnbrade light up those lights".

I still have my three builds;

1) Bailing wire core
2) Solid iron rod core
3) Solid iron rod core with aluminum varnish encapsulation

Of all three, the first worked the best.

Hey maybe I can use one of these once I make @HG's swing generator.

allcanadian

I think there are some very important questions we are not asking here, this device seems very similar to Leedskins perpetual motion holder. If this is a super inductor or a capacitor of sorts then what is the mechanism by which it stores energy?. We know in our circuits any current flow will produce a voltage DROP and a diminishing current in microseconds. So we know the methods we are using don't work, so the question is then how do you get around a voltage drop when current flows? In order to store energy over time there must be a voltage rise to compensate, if we want to use transformer action we already know the outcome so there must be another mechanism at work. Another clue is the aluminum, a diamagnetic material, we know this thin film has basically no effect on the magnetic fields we usually deal with so it must be something else. Now here is an interesting quote.
QuoteHe also talks about multiple 'currents' and the way they travel and effect the others
"Currents" ---- plural ---- more than one type of current, Tesla also speaks of "currents" in a plural sense, meaning more than one and more than one type. And in fact we know of two types of current ---- current like from a battery and an inductive discharge current which produces a voltage RISE based on the amount of resistance it encounters. I have been experimenting with this mechanism for a while but still can't resolve the issue of the dampened wave. I am fairly confident that all of these patents are using what Tesla refered to as "undampened" waves, an undampened wave is just what the name implies, a wave which will NOT diminish in strength over time. But as always there is probably a very simple aspect of these devices we are missing I have yet to nail down.
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