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Talking about phase...

Started by bob.rennips, July 01, 2007, 08:16:56 PM

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Bruce_TPU

Yep, pictures would be good, Grumpy.  I hope you took some at each of the three stages. 

Others should not be far behind!   ;D

Methinks the controller may slow some down, to add the needed precision.  Except GK, he almost had every tuning imaginable as it was!  LOL

I love this part...the building!  I can't wait to see the electronics Jason and Roberto come up with!

Happy Days! :)
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Grumpy

Let's get back to the discussion of "phase":

@Bob B:

How close to ideal phase separation (as in 120 degrees separation for three poles, 90 degrees for four, etc.) should or shouldn't it be?  I can use a ring counter or shift register to get the phased signals and then adjust them at each coil to make up for differences in winding/position, etc. - this sounds like the best approach.

Are you reversing the signal polarity like a 3-phase motor or just positive pulses?

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I got the parts, just need to wire them up.  Pretty simple actually.  Earl posted a circuit on another thread that would be good for experimenting.  Build that and adjust the clock for freq, tune the phases, and hold on to your hat.

EDIT: (Earl's circuits - http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2582.0.html )

Pictures?  This is so simple to wind - why would you need a picture?

EDIT:  I did not count the windings.  I did not take pictures while winding.  It is easy enough to disassemble when and if the time comes.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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HumblePie

@Bob B.,

Please tell us how do we 'focus the field inward' for safety as you describe. 

I assume the DB Bias is preferred for battery charging as well.  Does this help in containing or focusing the field? 

Can you tell us more about calculating efficient windings needed for a particular core size and intended load as you mentioned?  Thank you very much for time and patience.

Humble

Grumpy

I am trying to be more like the following quote from Bob Boyce on the Oupower.com forum, and encourage everyone else to do the same:

QuotePosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:01 am    Post subject:   

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I'm glad someone is getting encouraged. Yea, I suppose Lester Hendershot, and the others that successfully replicated his device, made sure they were always nearby to a powerful radio transmitter before tuning their devices to run lights and motors. Must be one hell of a crystal diode radio receiver 

Been there, done that. When I was fiddling with atmospheric energy, I experienced first-hand the typically pitiful amounts of power that could be drawn from RF and atmospheric potential. Unless one had access to a couple of high mountaintops like the Swiss Alps or a few really tall radio towers to string cables between, the current was typically in the microamps. That does not always hold true though. I have witnessed some spectacular discharges and potentials from some of the simplest of radiant energy collectors at times, and not because of nearby thunderstorms. Utility linemen must ground unconnected lines before working on them, to discharge the potentially lethal atmospheric potential, even when there are no nearby energized lines to couple or leak. I guess that means they are only imagining that they could be killed.

I have been on top of remote radio and television towers under construction, where there are no nearby transmitters yet in operation, dozens of miles from the next nearest radio tower, and witnessed first-hand the audible sizzle and visible corona of atmospheric potential from sharp points of metal. I have held electrostatic dissipators in my hands while installing them, and watched these corona discharges continue as the energy passed right through my body from the tower to the dissipators on many occasions. I have been on radio towers, within 50 feet of the top, as they were hit repeatedly by lightning. It was an occupational hazard that one must endure when installing or removing antennas from governmental/commercial radio or broadcast towers, sometimes even during inclement weather. When you spend all day working up on a tower in south Florida, you can't just decide to come down when the weather changes, or nothing would ever get done. And yes, I do still have pictures taken from some of these giant towers 

What's the point in all of this? Simple, unless you actually get your hands dirty building or doing something, you can only speculate and go by what you have been taught, whether it was right or wrong. Am I a scientist? No way. I like to actually build and test rather than use scientific models. If I see a need to test for something, I will. I don't always need to know why something observed behaves the way it does. Sure, I would like to know. But some of my most unproductive time was spent pouring over scientific texts trying to make heads or tails of observed phenomonae. I find it more satisfactory to explore and see how better to make practical use of this, rather than to pour through endless textbooks trying to find politically correct terminology.

Bob

"IronHead" summarized this advice down to three words: "Just Build It!"
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

HumblePie

'K.  Already in motion.  Saftey first like Bob B. says.