How to get hydrogen to use it?

[IronHead]

Simple, use the sun to release  hydrogen from its container ,water. If you don't like the idea of using generated power to do so and want to call it overunity. Fact is nearly all things  contain Hydrogen .Other power sources ,Nuclear power is overunity or Hydro . Point is there are many many ways to make Hydrogen in a clean and economical way. This does not even get into the new ideas of  frequency generated Hydrogen or release from water. Ever time some one goes public with such technology they seem to disappear. So maybe it is not about how to  do it, but when will we be aloud to do it ?


G W Bush was once quoted at a party saying
"I don't care if they use Hydrogen as long as it comes from my oil"


I 'll tell you this . I would not want to be a mechanic is the future if the cars run on 200 to 600 volt ultra caps at 100kw, Scary!  Or deal with the highly toxic waste if they use batteries . What does it cost in fuel use to make these things? And here again you must use the grid to power these things.


Water is already a self charged battery , we just need to learn how to use it.
IronHead

[duruturk52]

So you basically say we use hydrogen fuel cells to store our electricity to use it later. than we need to store it as hydrogen in our high presure tangs in our cars or in our homes. What about the waste of fuel cell? Is that ok with the enviroment? Is the high presure tangs safe to use for cars? Is the material of the fuel cell limited as a natural source?

                                                                       Thank you for the response..

[IronHead]

The only waste is pure water and pure oxygen .This can be run not only in a Fuel Cell but also right in you old gasoline engine with minor changes to accommodate  this new fuel.Also carbon is what is used to build these tanks.
Carbon , no steel ,aluminum, no exotic metals.

Carbon fiber wound Hydrogen Tanks are far safer than gasoline tanks at the moment.
How many people have a 250 pound LP tank right up next to there house. The new Hydrogen tanks are far safer than the LP tanks as well. Fact is the new standard  tank is shatter proof and backflash proof ....
Watch some of these video to be well informed of the technology .

http://www.lincolncomposites.com/media.html

I especially like the tank of hydrogen  in the bonfire and not exploding as you would think it would.

Question , when you spill gasoline where does it go . It goes right on the ground all around you . It sticks ,it gets absorbed into material and when it burns , well you get the idea. But Hydrogen being the lightest element known if spilled goes up and away from the vehicle . Even if it ignites, it burns  more like a torch , upward and localized fashion instead of a river of flames , engulfing you  such as gasoline might .

The other point I was trying to make is that Water is already a sort of natural hydrogen tank . And water is very safe compared to these other fuels . What I am trying to say is there has been no Mega funding for on demand Hydrogen  from water.
There are two resigns for this . One is because of our wonderful laws of thermal dynamics restricting us from such research on a large scale. As in the minds of the funded scientist it just can not be done according to these 100 year old laws .
The second resign is a complicated one. This has to do with the people that run the show , and we all know who they are .

[Aphasiac]

@ duruturk52: I started where you are about a month ago. I'm guessing most of the people end up here for the same reason: there are plenty of contradictions, and none of the information adds up. You'll likely decide to find out what's true and what isn't on your own.

Ironhead: I understand you completed a project like the one I'm banging away at now... HHO powered small engine with car alternator attached? Did you manage to get your generator to run extensively on 100% Oxyhydrogen?

I'm asking because, it seems to me, if companies like "Canada Hydrogen Co." can guarantee a minimum 10% fuel reduction on their H.O.D. installs on 300HP Tractors, I shouldn't have too much trouble generating enough HO to power my 12HP Briggs. That's the logic that lit a fire under my ass.

Just looking for any advice you're willing to send my way.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2665.0.html

Also: I read somewhere that you have a larger engine for your next project. I'm also expecting delivery of a crated 1.8 liter Volkswagon engine (80HP) in a couple of weeks. I've contacted Sanlin in China to order a new 25KW genhead. Expecting price to be in the $400.00 range. Still awaiting response.

--Mark.

[pese]

Nice Information
(Video 12 Minutes)

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=9195208486083207960&hl=en-AU

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