Steorn?s upcoming demo in London , Uk !?

[Silvije]

Anyone have photos of this kinetica thing from all sides? I would like to see how it is constructed and maybe to replicate,
but I cannot because it seems camera 2 is setup in a way it doesn't show device from the side. I think it is on purpose. But maybe some visitors have photos? Or like in that short video from one visitor, didn't his camera have any zoom??? arghhhhh

s.

[bitRAKE]

Can you imagine being Sean and facing all the questions and disappointment - no envy here for that man!

Their crediblity plummets like a lead balloon. Without a doubt they are not being honest about the failure, and there is nothing to gain from the series of blunders save for reduced expectations. It is exactly the opposite of what any company hopes for.

It's like they are all stoned.

[JamesThomas]

It seems that Steorn -- if they are at all legitimate -- are a group of people who do not see free energy for the world as important as lining their own pockets. Being of the same general mindset that is polluting this planet, they deserve to look like fools.

Perhaps the universal-deciding-factor as to whether or not a planet has free energy, is the evolution of open, compassionate and unselfish consciousness.

We're just not there yet.

j

[steve_whiss]

Hi,

...the issue is ethics and morals in commerce.

This stuff costs a bunch. It's fine to make a profit which keeps you going, pays the bills, the salaries, buildings, new research. IF Steorn had say 5 guys working full time for 2 years on this - then with a WCP of x2 (=overheads factor) then that is = 10 guys at say $50,000 per annum each so 1/2 mil a year.

They could easy have sunk a mil into this one by now, so unless they are paid behind the scenes to make this fail (don't really think so) then this is a major problem for them - they would never plan to throw that money.

You want them to go bust? - that would send a message - "Don't bother" to every FE concern.


The problem comes when companies form a monopoly or cartel, use that to smother new competition then rip people off. Just taking more and more $ with no ceiling in sight.

Then you get into the race of who can make the most profit.... the suits who are in this for ego and shoveling the worlds wealth as fast as possible into the bottomless maw of - often - people who are already wealthy enough that they don't need think where the next car (-house -plane -yacht) comes from.

Don't know how this can be fixed unless capital is split between core needs and frivolous toy money for the mindlessly rich.

This is a genuine problem - any unrestrained "-ism" forms a tyranny.

Balance is all; long term survival demands it.

Steve

[dimitri]

Hi, i'm new here....my first contribution is a quote from zdnet which I believe is worth reading.

bcockriel's setup on youtube seems to make more sense than Steorn at this time.

bart0120 join the queue of people that think that magnetic shielding
will get them excess energy. Perhaps Steorn are ahead of you in the queue. As head of research at a company that used to make magnetic shielding I have met a lot such as you. Most seem to think that magnetic shielding works like opaque paper to a magnetic field. It works by diverting the field around the shielded object and it takes as much energy to insert the shield in the field as can be gained from the shielded object.

Unless the laws of electromagnetism are wrong magnetic fields are rigorously conservative. If you move a configuration of magnetic objects around and get back to the starting configuration there will be zero net energy change. This is what Steorn claim to have disproved but engineers have used those laws to predict the behaviour of millions of configurations and have always found the laws obeyed. The chances of a fairly simple configuration of common materials providing net energy gain when no discrepancy has
ever been found are very small.

If all they are doing is spinning a balanced wheel with no net energy
output and slight problems with the bearings or light level can stop it they are at best generating microwatts. Even if it were valid this amount of power from a sizeable device is of no practicable use
and it is amenable to fraudulent energy inputs such as a light air current.



Posted by Nick Rouse on Jul 6, 2007 10:34 AM