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Overunity Machines Forum



Steorn?s upcoming demo in London , Uk !?

Started by hartiberlin, July 03, 2007, 11:48:07 PM

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Honk

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 07, 2007, 07:23:13 AM
@Honk,
if you would have seen the new machine of Paul Sprain,
you could already almost "smell" the available power from the huge permanent magnets !
;)

Hi Hartiberlin

Sorry for being so sceptical and harsh on Paul.
I'm just so fed up with all so called "failing" and fake demontrations.
I just want some solid tests and open verification.

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 07, 2007, 01:06:57 AM
On the new machine we are getting 222 Nm at 52 radians. The maximum I can put
into the Electro-Magnet is 110 volts at 9 amps firing 33 times a second.
As you can see the input is nowhere near what the output power is.
(added by admin: Output is a huge 12.5 KWatts, while the input is just 200 Watts only !)

How do you calculate 222 Nm at 52 radians to an output of 12.5KW?
What does really 52 radians mean? Didn't Paul mean RPM?
Please post the formula. It could be very useful in future projects.

Regards / Honk
Magnet Power equals Clean Power

Omnibus

Hi Stefan,

Did you get that? @Sean from the Steorn forum just said that someone, a former member of that forum who has signed a NDA and now is a member of the Steorn Private Developers Club (SPDC) has  reproduced independently their device and it had run for approx. 8 hours. Too bad @Sean left the discussion just about that time and I couldn't understand was this fellow the only one who has reproduced the experiment. I guess these SPDC's aren't members of the 22 jury group but are somehow independently under a NDA agreement with Steorn.

Dingus Mungus

Quote from: Honk on July 11, 2007, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: hartiberlin on July 07, 2007, 07:23:13 AM
@Honk,
if you would have seen the new machine of Paul Sprain,
you could already almost "smell" the available power from the huge permanent magnets !
;)

Hi Hartiberlin

Sorry for being so sceptical and harsh on Paul.
I'm just so fed up with all so called "failing" and fake demontrations.
I just want some solid tests and open verification.

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 07, 2007, 01:06:57 AM
On the new machine we are getting 222 Nm at 52 radians. The maximum I can put
into the Electro-Magnet is 110 volts at 9 amps firing 33 times a second.
As you can see the input is nowhere near what the output power is.
(added by admin: Output is a huge 12.5 KWatts, while the input is just 200 Watts only !)

How do you calculate 222 Nm at 52 radians to an output of 12.5KW?
What does really 52 radians mean? Didn't Paul mean RPM?
Please post the formula. It could be very useful in future projects.

Regards / Honk

6.282 radians = 1 rotation I believe...
So perhaps he ment 52 radians per minute which is 8.3RPM
but that sounds awfully slow for all that power so perhaps its 8.3RPS...

But whats really confusing me is its writen as "222 Nm at 52 radians"
This layout is commonly used to figure out the force at length measurements.
Much like the "foot pounds" of torque ratio this would be "Newtons per radian"?
I have no clue what that means in terms of power conversion.
Perhaps the system of measurement could be changed in to a more common one.

Thanks in advance,
~Dingus Mungus

Honk

Yes, I would like to clear things up so we don't end with useless numbers
when it comes to talking about the power output from Paul's motor.
When inventors tend to use strange ways of measurement they usually
have something to hide. Let's not do it this time, please.
Magnet Power equals Clean Power

joegatt

I happened to be in London for a week and having heard about the Steorn demonstration I decided to go on a pilgrimage to this most recent shrine of free energy.  The day was Saturday, and the announcement that the demonstration had failed was already hanging on the glass doors of the Kinetica Museum. I wasn't surprised, because I had been reading the postings on this forum. But I felt it rather disappointing that the only item on display was the plexiglass hamster wheel. I mean, I can understand that the parts were taken-in for inspection, but couldn't they have left a picture or posted a movie on YouTube?

As I made my way back through the Old Spitalfields Market I was so glad I hadn't travelled far to get there.  And I was equally pleased that during the past eight months, I hadn't spent one minute of my time trying out some impossible replication of this "Orbo" effect.

Regards
Joseph