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How this was done in 1821.....

Started by steve_whiss, July 11, 2007, 07:09:05 PM

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@Steve_Whiss 

Frankly, I have no definitive opinion about 'energy' and, BTW, the purpose of life :).

Does this energy comes from 'nothing'?
Does it comes from 'Eather'?
You know what? I just do not care!

The theory of the steam engine is appeared after the invention of real machines.

I do beleive that Free-Energy is possible. I sometimes make some experiments about it and write articles in a French fringe magazine...

Are the maths bad?
I have been told that Maxwell was using Quaternions and had 20 equations. Then Heaviside and Lorentz simplified/mutilated/altered/symetrised his equations.
So, now, we have only these (in)famous 4 equations taught at university.

I just guess that this vector calculus is not so 'appropriate'. Imagine a wall and to twin big guys. One of the guy is pushing one side and the other guy is pushing the other side. According to vector calculus the result force is zero. Obviously, something (the potential) is missing. The quaternions can deal with this.

Best 
Nolite mittere margaritas ante porcos.

Omnibus

@bitRAKE,

Please read what I write and try to think before posting such nonsense:
QuoteWell, when you stop pretending the magnetic field isn't there then we can have an honest discussion. You cannot turn on the magnetic field after the bearing is placed on the track. No where in your analysis do you cover the pre-rail magnetic field effect on the bearing.
Here is my analysis from which you should somehow try to understand that I am ignoring nothing.

The analysis of a ball going around a closed loop as in http://data.image.zabim.com/o-wa51V9glc9.jpg reveals the following:

Since the ball doesn?t return along B->A the ball does not lose only the energy portion, imparted to it by the researcher, (+mgh1 ?(Ma ? Mb)) from the energy (+mgh1 +Mb) it has at B, that is, it?s not true that the ball returns at A with the energy

(+mgh1 +Mb) - (+mgh1 ?(Ma ? Mb)) = +Ma (CoE obeyed)

As experiment shows, the ball returns along C->A, therefore, the ball loses in addition to (+mgh1 ?(Ma ? Mb)) also the energy portion (+Mb ? 0) = mgh2 + [kinetic + ...] which the ball had stored at B but was realized at C. Therefore, the ball returns at A with the energy

(+mgh1 +Mb) - (+mgh1 ?(Ma ? Mb) - Mb) = +Ma + Mb = +Ma +mgh2 + [kinetic ...+]

As a result, in SMOT, the initial +Ma is restored and in addition an excess of +mgh2 + [kinetic ...+] is produced which is in clear violation of CoE.

Omnibus

@shrugged atlas,
QuoteThat's a great closed loop, except for one thing.  A hand is magically appearing and lifting the ball back to its starting position.  I think I see your plan for free energy!  Hire cheap labor to move little balls.
That's nonsense. Read my analysis, try to understand it and stop posting nonsense such as the above.

bitRAKE

@Omnibus, clearly we are speaking different languages. Without a translator I doubt the exchange can progress much further. Thank you for taking the time.
Energy might not be FREE, but the universe has been building it up for billions of years - the fact that we exist means it is availble to us.

Omnibus

@bitRAKE,

Quote@Omnibus, clearly we are speaking different languages. Without a translator I doubt the exchange can progress much further. Thank you for taking the time.
I'm speaking the language of Science and Reason. If you need a translator for that language, find one and don't waste the bandwidth of discussion forums such as this by filling them with nonsense.