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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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ltseung888

Quote from: Koen1 on March 20, 2008, 02:15:18 PM

What is this mechanism that extracts the energy, this mechanism that you also call the "Lee-Tseung Pull"?

Dear Koen1,

You might not have read the Extract from our PCT patent as referred to by M@rcel in reply 1905.  The link is http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2006077451

The extract is reproduced here:

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The invention extracts energy from gravity based on the corrected theory of the pendulum. When the pendulum is pushed, it will 'lead out' gravitational energy at the same time. If a source of pulse force (F) is applied to the pendulum at resonance, it will keep 'lead out' gravitational energy. This gravitational energy can be extracted by techniques such as allowing the metallic wired pendulum to cut across the lines of magnetic force to generate electricity. The swinging motion of the pendulum will be slowed down because the mechanical energy is converted to electrical energy. However, such slowing down is speeded up via pulse force (F). The swinging motion can be changed into a constant rotational motion for a more efficient operation.

Hope the statement that ?metallic wire cutting across the lines of magnetic force to generate electricity? is clear.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

chrisC

Quote from: ltseung888 on March 20, 2008, 07:00:23 PM
Quote from: Koen1 on March 20, 2008, 02:15:18 PM

What is this mechanism that extracts the energy, this mechanism that you also call the "Lee-Tseung Pull"?

Dear Koen1,

You might not have read the Extract from our PCT patent as referred to by M@rcel in reply 1905.  The link is http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2006077451

The extract is reproduced here:

Quote
The invention extracts energy from gravity based on the corrected theory of the pendulum. When the pendulum is pushed, it will 'lead out' gravitational energy at the same time. If a source of pulse force (F) is applied to the pendulum at resonance, it will keep 'lead out' gravitational energy. This gravitational energy can be extracted by techniques such as allowing the metallic wired pendulum to cut across the lines of magnetic force to generate electricity. The swinging motion of the pendulum will be slowed down because the mechanical energy is converted to electrical energy. However, such slowing down is speeded up via pulse force (F). The swinging motion can be changed into a constant rotational motion for a more efficient operation.

Hope the statement that ?metallic wire cutting across the lines of magnetic force to generate electricity? is clear.


Hold your horses Mr. Tseung. That PCT reference you cited above for your patent is actually a patent application. is it not? A patent application is just an application. It's not been granted or examined yet. As a matetr of fact, if your readers read page 4 of what the examiner has to say in the initial review, it is what the members here are saying about your 'unfounded' physics.

http://www.wipo.int/patentscopedb/en/wads.jsp?IA=IB2005000138&LANGUAGE=EN&ID=id00000005369589&VOL=74&DOC=00470d&WO=06/077451&WEEK=30/2006&TYPE=A1&DOC_TYPE=IPRP1&PAGE=1

Or if the link is not reachable, just look at the reference Lawrence quoted, click the Documents Tab and read all the transcripts for yourself.

Now, are we better educated about your 'patent'?

cheers
chrisC

ps: do remember to take your medicine tonight

ltseung888

Quote from: chrisC on March 20, 2008, 07:39:08 PM

Hold your horses Mr. Tseung. That PCT reference you cited above for your patent is actually a patent application. is it not? A patent application is just an application. It's not been granted or examined yet. As a matetr of fact, if your readers read page 4 of what the examiner has to say in the initial review, it is what the members here are saying about your 'unfounded' physics.

http://www.wipo.int/patentscopedb/en/wads.jsp?IA=IB2005000138&LANGUAGE=EN&ID=id00000005369589&VOL=74&DOC=00470d&WO=06/077451&WEEK=30/2006&TYPE=A1&DOC_TYPE=IPRP1&PAGE=1

Or if the link is not reachable, just look at the reference Lawrence quoted, click the Documents Tab and read all the transcripts for yourself.

Now, are we better educated about your 'patent'?

cheers
chrisC

Dear chrisC,

This is one of your few constructive posts.  It raised the whole issue of patents, patent applications, International patents, patent examinations, patent protection, patent fee and Individual Country Patents.

I shall defer such discussions until we have settled on Slides 10-12.  No distraction for now.

Will you ever comment intelligently on Slides 10-12?

Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

Koen1

No Tseung, it didn't "raise the issue of patents" and you really can't distract us from
what Chris pointed out.

Let me quote for you what the patent authority said about your patent application:
QuoteClaims 1-6 that claiming of extracting of work from gravitation in addition to energy used to overcome
the gravitational forces are in violation with the energy conservation laws and as such they don't have an
industrial applicablilty.

Applicant based his invention on scientific principle or theory developed by him that is not recognised by currently
accepted scientific theories. Applicant is vague with respect to where the "energy pulse" comes from, and he also
anticipates the potential or gravity energy accumulated by the "energy pulse" to be larger than the initial "energy
pulse" initially supplied to the system. The assumption of such surplus energy from gravity is in violation of
energy conservation principle that disallows the perpetual motion machine of the first type i.e. the machine that is
capable to create more useful energy than it takes to generate it.

In other words, you were just as incapable of convincing the patent authority as you were of convincing us.  :)

Pirate88179

Koen1:

I'm shocked.  (Not really)

Bill
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