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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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Top Gun

Quote from: atomicX on November 08, 2008, 10:11:17 AM
I have a few questions regarding the flying saucer.  If the device capable of self propulsion at high speed, how does it makes a different from a jet plane.   

Dear atomicX,

A jet plane still relies on aerodynamics - or the presence of air.  To make a fast U-turn, it uses a large tail rudder surface to react against air. 

A flying saucer can fly in outer space with no air at all.  Its action will be determined totally by the forces it generates.  In order to make a fast U-turn, it generates a force perpendicular to motion.  In physics, we call that - centripetal force. 

That centripetal force can be compared with skaters making very fast turns on ice.  Or a downhill skier making sharp turns.

The properties of a flying saucer that are different from a jet engine are:
(1)   Ability to hover in mid-air
(2)   Vertical take off and landing
(3)   Make very sharp turns â€" including U-turns
(4)   Apparently coming to a sudden stop (could actually be very tight U-turns)
(5)   Flying to outer space
(6)   No ejection of hot gases as means of propulsion

The simple experiments (experiment001 to experiment005) fulfill the above 6 observations.  No laws of Physics have been violated.  Experiment001 was done by a professor in electromagnetism at Tsinghua University, Beijing, China in about two hours after he heard the presentation from Lee and Tseung in October 2006.

According to Mr. Lee Cheung Kin, he talked to a group (the alumni of a military college) associated with the Chinese Military in May 2008.  Initially, the group was doubtful but they decided to perform the suggested experiments.  The flying saucer craft flew and the picture was taken on the last week of October..  The group remarked that it was child's play.  The craft is far from commercialization.  However, the same experiments or similar can be replicated worldwide.  Science is science.  Physics, mathematics and working prototypes cannot be wrong.

When the theory is so simple and the experiments so easy, no authority in the world could stop the scientific research.  Some tried the CIA or the like approach to fool us.  Some tried insults on this forum.  None of these will succeed.  The world will benefit if we ignore our personal fame or fortune.

Top Gun

Quote from: atomicX on November 08, 2008, 10:11:17 AM
I'm still thinking about this theory.  I know the tension did half of the work, but what is it relationship with centripetal force?  In order this to be a complete theory, I must incorporate it from atomic level to galactic level; and it must agree.   How far did you get on nature? If you don't mind share it with me. 

The flying saucer craft as described did not use lead-out-energy yet.

Please study the presentation file in http://hk.geocities.com/winghang20022002/

The Form 7 students headed by Ms. Forever Yuen studied and mastered those slides as if they were examination material.  They could then understand the theories fully and present to others.  Their presentation is better than mine as they are closer to the level of the average layman.

There are actually two separate theories and two separate patents.  One is on lead-out-energy and the other is the flying saucer.  Please do not mix them up until you have mastered them separately.

You have the disadvantage of not having heard the presentation and ask questions when doubts arise.  That might change if President Obama and/or the President of China agree to release the information to the general public.  Hundreds of academics will lecture on the topic.  Thousands of experiments will be done.

Pirate88179

@ "TopGun" (Lawrence, et al):

"Dear atomicX,

A jet plane still relies on aerodynamics - or the presence of air.  To make a fast U-turn, it uses a large tail rudder surface to react against air."


The above quote from "TopGun" is totally wrong!  A jet, or any airplane for that matter, does NOT use the rudder to make a U-turn.  The wings turn an aircraft.  It is the lift vector in the wings that actually turn any aircraft.  I have flown many airplanes in my day and I can tell you, or anyone can look it up, the ailerons bank the wings which shifts the lift direction which turns the plane.  The only thing the rudder does is to keep the aircraft from "skidding" which is to say it keeps it on track with the relative wind as indicated by the turn and bank instrument.

As a matter of fact, Jet pilots most of all have very little use for the rudder when flying.  It is more important when flying a light aircraft like a Cessna or Piper.  I have known jet pilots that have flown thousands of miles, from take off to landing and have never once used the rudder.

So, once again, TopGun shows us his ignorance.  If he can't understand a simple principle like this, no wonder his math is flawed.

Bill
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TinselKoala

Top Gun, are you claiming that the device illustrated in Experiment001 will hover in mid-air?

Please demonstrate this, as I am unable to do so with similarly constructed apparatus.

I have no doubt that the thing will travel on a flat surface. But it is unnecessary to resort to the LTLOT to explain this fact.

atomicX

Quote from: Top Gun on November 08, 2008, 03:24:24 PM

The properties of a flying saucer that are different from a jet engine are:
(1)   Ability to hover in mid-air
(2)   Vertical take off and landing
(3)   Make very sharp turns â€" including U-turns
(4)   Apparently coming to a sudden stop (could actually be very tight U-turns)
(5)   Flying to outer space
(6)   No ejection of hot gases as means of propulsion



Top Gun,

I understand the features you proposed.  Mybe you did not understand my point. I'm worrying about the safety of the pilot.  I understand we can stand in a space ship that travel at the speed of light.  But from the speed of light to a complete stop in 2 or 3 second require method of protecting everything inside the spaceship.  I know that you just want to propose your theory so my concern require much engineering.  To me we should extend the ability to control not only large inertia but also generate a minute force field within. But like I said, let the engineer do that. 

I did not get mess up with flying saucer and free energy.  Though a lead out machine must be present inside the spaceship.  I also believe in inertia propulsion and professor Laithwaith's works.  To me lead out energy can be extend to and extract from linear motion and not restricting to circular motion.  Thought it could be related since we're talking from normal object scale to atomic scale. 


Bill,
Thanks for the detail information.  You are correct that airplanes cannot use rudder to manuver, such a force would only result in stalling the airplane.  I believe Top Gun point is the concept between mass ejecting and interia propulsion.  Thanks for the clarification.