The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[Devil]

That probably won't work because the output is in the form of pulsed energy.
The input requires very specific timing. It would be a very large coincidence when input and output are required at the very same time slots.

Good observation.  Tseung and Tong are selecting the best capacitors and arrangements to smooth out the pulsing output.

I told Tseung not to take any notice of any debunker or insulter postings.  He just put down his information for record purposes.  Even if he were silienced tomorrow, he would have something to show the World.

He could claim anything.  He and Lee already contacted the Legislative Council Members, the Commission for Innovation and Technology, the Six Universities in Hong Kong, the Beijing Patent Office and of course, President Obama.  His claims will be disputed, debated, verified and confirmed.  Any unjustified claims would be tossed out.

If he were to wait for Official Verification before he posted anything, he should not be in this forum or anywhere on the Internet.

[ltseung888]

The light bulbs as load and the charging of the battery

We now have a good number of 12V light bulb with 3 watt rating.  We chose the low watt as our Output Power from the meters indicate a few watts.  To our pleasant surprise, the wheel could sustain not just one but 3 light bulbs.  It could also deliver current to the battery at the same time.  However, the current was only 0.33 Amps.

From our Commercial Unit literature, the charging current must be 1.5 Amp or up before charging of a weak battery could really take place.  Even if the meter indicates a Current of 0.33A flowing, the battery was NOT re-charged.

We still have the challenge of providing sufficient current to recharge the batteries.  Our Output Voltage before recharging the battery was 17 Volts.  That should be enough to recharge the battery.  As soon as we connected the wires, the voltage dropped to 12V.  The Amp meter still showed current reading flowing from the Output.  We thought that indicated a charging of the battery.  We were mistaken.

We now need to get a much higher Output Power.  At present, we used 4 collector coils in series.  We could have 2 pairs of these in parallel.  We could also insert different Collectors in.  We could try to use Collector Coils with soft iron core, etc.  One thing we can also try is to put in capacitors to smooth out the Output Voltage.

For the Carnival Demonstration on Nov 5-8, we can rely on the Input and Output meter readings.  That indicates overunity.  The purpose is to arouse discussion, more experiments and more involvement.

*** We also bought an expensive oscilloscope with programs that can be connected to the Computer.  It will take a few days for Mr. Tong to master it.  His priority is to tidy up the working prototype for Nov 5-8.

[robbie47]

This battery looks like an ordinary lead acid battery.
These should be able to charge with even a few milliamps.

It may be that your charger has a threshold of 1.5 A before charging.
Some manufacturers do that because otherwise the battery voltage raises too much, which kill the battery under charge.
Should be indicated in the user manual.

[ltseung888]

This battery looks like an ordinary lead acid battery.
These should be able to charge with even a few milliamps.

It may be that your charger has a threshold of 1.5 A before charging.
Some manufacturers do that because otherwise the battery voltage raises too much, which kill the battery under charge.
Should be indicated in the user manual.

We found that our drive coils have an AC component.  It was probably due to picking up energy during the idle time.  We shall find out more with the expensive scope.  Can we use this AC energy to our advantage?

There was much discussion on the “strange behavior” of the Newman, Bedini batteries after they have been recharged by their machines.  We are seeing that.  This may be due to charging with an AC or fluctuating component.  We shall place the appropriate capacitors.  (Appropriate means that we are still in the early experimental mode.)

[robbie47]

We found that our drive coils have an AC component.  It was probably due to picking up energy during the idle time.  We shall find out more with the expensive scope.  Can we use this AC energy to our advantage?

Lawrence, do you re-use the back-emf of the drive coil(s) after switching off the current?
This might be the effect you indicated.
In the picture below re-using driving current in the coils can be found.
Solution 1 uses a diode to re-circulate drive current after switching off
Solution 2 uses simple switch to re-circulate current after switching off

Are your using something like this?