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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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Mr.Entropy

Quote from: ltseung888 on October 07, 2007, 10:34:31 AM
The Energy impacted at this point (first pulse) is the sum of (the horizontal energy Fp x horizontal displacement + Fg x Vertical displacement.)  The relationship between these two energies is roughly 2 parts horizontal to 1 part vertical.  This is the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "impacted", but no.  The energy you've put in is Fp x horizontal displacement OR -Fg x vertical displacement, i.e., you don't add them, because they are different ways of measuring essentially the same thing.  The Fp x horizontal displacement is you spending energy.  The Fg x vertical displacement is the pendulum storing that energy.  If you do add them, you'll get zero, since Fg x vertical displacement is negative -- the push is down, but the motion is up!

ltseung888

Quote from: Mr.Entropy on October 07, 2007, 06:56:25 PM
Quote from: ltseung888 on October 07, 2007, 10:34:31 AM
The Energy imparted or provided to the Pendulum A system   at this point (first pulse) is the sum of (the horizontal energy Fp x horizontal displacement + Fg x Vertical displacement.)  The relationship between these two energies is roughly 2 parts horizontal to 1 part vertical.  This is the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "impacted", but no.  The energy you've put in is Fp x horizontal displacement OR -Fg x vertical displacement, i.e., you don't add them, because they are different ways of measuring essentially the same thing.  The Fp x horizontal displacement is you spending energy.  The Fg x vertical displacement is the pendulum storing that energy.  If you do add them, you'll get zero, since Fg x vertical displacement is negative -- the push is down, but the motion is up!


Dear Mr. Entropy,

Thank you for your reply.  You should be proud of your reply.  It was the same as one of the top professors at Harvard University in early 2005.

He said that we double accounted the energy terms.  His reasoning was basically similar to yours.

I shall pause for a day or so.  I shall dig up the notes on how Professor  Woo, the Chinese Scientist who helped to create the Chinese Atomic Bomb, answered this issue.

I am glad that the discussions are getting more and more scientific now.  Thanks to jeffc.

Lawrence Tseung
Intelligent thinking Leads Out question of double accounting.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

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My notes from early 2005 ? things may have changed since then.

Prof H: ?I believe you might have done double accounting.  In the pendulum example with a horizontal force, the vertical energy gained is supplied by the horizontal force.  This is the Law of CoE.?

Prof Woo: ?But the two components (vertical and horizontal) of the Integral (Fr dot ds) from vertical position to maximum LHS position do not have to be equal mathematically.  If the two quantities are different, there could not be double accounting.?

Prof H: ?If they are not equal, then energy must come from somewhere.  If we consider the simple pendulum with a horizontal force as a closed system, there is no external energy supply.  The Law of CoE demands that these two terms must be equal.?

Prof Woo: ?I have been thinking about this for the last few months.  We all accept that the pendulum in the new-elevated position before swinging has potential energy equal to mgh.  However, it also has moved horizontally.  That displacement must require energy, as there is tension in the string countering the movement.  I believe the vertical and horizontal energy terms should be added.  They are different and there is no double accounting.?

Prof H: ?If gravitational energy can be Lead Out by the simple pulsed pendulum, it will rewrite all textbooks.  I need working, demonstrated prototypes in our hands before we discuss this topic further.?

Prof Woo: ?I have the Lee-Tseung theory and patent application information.  They claimed that pulsed oscillation could lead out gravitational energy.  They quoted a Dr. Liang Xingren Car that used ICs to pulse rotate a cylinder to Lead Out Gravitational Energy.  I met Dr. Liang and drove the car myself.  I am satisfied that the car did not use any conventional energy supply.  I could not explain the source of energy for the Liang Car.  The Lee-Tseung theory could explain it.  This is the reason I am here.?

Prof H: ?Are you saying that the CoE law has been broken and can be verified totally?  We have to be extremely careful with such statements.  Let us have more evidence and working demonstrations in our hands before we do anything.?

(Prof Woo since then has been working on a Pulse Device with his team.)

Dear Mr. Entropy,

So you see that a top professor at Harvard University has the similar concern and mental attitude as you.  Unless he has a working prototype in his hands, he will not discuss the issue further.  If he accepts the Lead Out theory without absolute and undisputable proof, he would put his reputation and possibly the entire Harvard University Reputation at stake.

The fortunate thing is ? there are many working prototypes already - some inside China and some outside China. 

I shall finish discussing the desk pendulum toy first before focusing on the working prototypes.  If there are issues we do not agree on, we just lay them out in the open and deal with them later.  (May be after a working prototype is in your hands.)

Scientific Progress and Benefits to the World does not need to stop if we do not agree!

(to be continued)

Lawrence Tseung
Even a top professor needs a working model in his hand to Lead Out further discussion of Cosmic Energy Machines.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

In Mode 1 : (singl pendulum swing in intended mode)

Step 2 ? Pendulum A was released from the LHS.

Pendulum A now swings back from the maximum displacement position on the LHS and gets ready to collide with pendulums B,C,D,E.

No horizontal force is applied during this step.  Thus no gravitational energy is lead out.  The same Integral can be used - Integral (Fr dot ds).  The starting position is Pendulum A at the maximum displaced point on the LHS and the ending position is just before collision.

Fr is the resultant force at any time on the Bob of Pendulum A; ds is the displacement at the corresponding time; dot denotes vector mathematics.  This integral is a result of work = Force x Displacement.  Fr may vary at the different displacement points ds.  If we know the exact shape of the Fr function, we should be able to calculate the integral.  It does not matter whether the Pendulum Bob is accelerating, deceleration, stationary or in motion.

In this step, there are only two forces on Pendulum A.  They are Force due to Weight Fg and Force due to Tension of the String Fs.  Pendulum A will swing faster in a circular motion.  If there were no friction or air resistance, the total energy acquired by Pendulum A (Etotal) remains unchanged.  However, Pendulum A acquires its maximum velocity just before collision.  Both the CoE and the Lee-Tseung predict and agree on this.

Lawrence Tseung
Agreement at this step Leads Out faster pace.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

In Mode 1 : (single pendulum swing in intended mode)

Step 3 ? Pendulum A collides with Pendulums B,C,D,E and imparts or transfers its energy totally to Pendulum E assuming negligible loss due to sound and heat.

This collision step is the one that may cause confusion.  Some readers want to consider this as a Pulse Force as defined in the Lee-Tseung theory.  However, this collision force does not involve any gradual change in the tension of the string to do work or to Lead Out Gravitational Energy.  It is more like an Energy Transfer process as mentioned by Mr. Entropy.  The total energy of Pendulum A is transferred to Pendulum E.  Pendulum E can be thought of as the replication of Pendulum A. (If there were no Pendulums B,C,D,E, Pendulum A will continue swinging.  Now Pendulum E swings instead of Pendulum A.)

Such a collision is not considered a Pulse Force as required in the Lee-Tseung Theory.  It is only an energy transfer process.  No gravitational force will be Lead Out.

Lawrence Tseung
A Collision Process can be an Energy Transfer Process.  It is not a Pulse Force that Leads Out Gravitational Energy.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.