The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[ltseung888]

Just arrived home.  Wang Shum Ho sends his regards.  He now has 4 titles:

(1)   Ã¤Â¸â€"ç•Å'生產率科學éâ,,¢Â¢Ã¤Â¸Â­Ã¥Å"‹åˆ†æÅ"Æ'副理事長
Deputy Chairman, World Confederation of Productivity Science, China Chapter.  This is the Organization that sponsored the Conference in Shenzhen, China.

(2)   Ã¤Â¸Â­Ã¥Å"‹æâ€"°èÆ'½æºå…¬å¸å‰¯ç¸½è£ï¼Å'å…¼æŠâ,¬Ã¨Â¡â€œÃ§Â¸Â½Ã§â€ºÂ£
Vice President, New Energy Source Company of China and Chief Scientist.  This is the Company once referred to as General Magnetic.  This Company is planning its International IPO in 2008.

(3)   Ã¦Â¸â€¦Ã¨ÂÂ¯Ã¥Â¤Â§Ã¥Â­Â¸Ã¥Â°â€"端科æŠâ,¬Ã§Â â€Ã§Â©Â¶Ã©â,,¢Â¢Ã¥â€°Â¯Ã©â,,¢Â¢Ã©â€¢Â·
Deputy Head of Department, Advanced Sciences, Tsing Hua University.

(4)   Ã¤Â¸Â­Ã¥Å"‹è§£æ”¾è»ç¸½è£å‚â,,¢Ã©Æ'¨ï¼Å'å°â€"端科æŠâ,¬Ã§Â â€Ã§Â©Â¶Ã¥Â°â€˜Ã¥Â°â€¡
Junior General, Advanced Science Research, Peoples Liberation Army of China.

The English Translation is from me and may not be correct.

More than 20 Wang Electricity Generators are in test mode.  The longest uninterrupted test started in early October 2007.  The test results are likely to be announced Worldwide when there is at least a six month non-interrupted operation.

I am sure the real CIA can confirm all the above.  Dear Major Todd, if your colleagues need more information, email me.

[tchath11]

Lawrence et al,

I sent a separate email, but would like to post to this group the three online groups I am involved with in case you want to dive into the U.S.-based alternative energy movement:
New Energy Congress:  http://top100energy.com - link to membership signup is available via this page.
Energy Consensus Group:  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EnergyConsensus - many in government and private industry in the D.C. area
water car yahoogroups working on Bob Boyce cell replication:  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/watercar

www.green-salon.com lists a few technologies, and I will summarize their progress below - my best estimate of their progress:
The following is a list of people directly involved with the most promising advanced alternative energy R&D projects:

Ken Rauen ? kmpr27 {at} yahoo.com ? Rauen Environmental Heat Engine
Secured funding for a proof of concept build, which won't take more than a couple months to complete.
This probably won't save the world, but will prove overunity concept.

Eddie Sines ? edsines {at} aol.com ? Potomac Energy Projects LLC
Has a unique design, easiest to scale up to MW range.  Suggest all POCs contact him for additional info beyond what is posted online, as I promised Eddie no additional info would be disclosed to the public through me, so it's better to contact him directly for updates.

Ken Rasmussen ? kr {at} commutefaster.com ? Advanced Hydroxy Gas Production
Has the most sophisticated version of advanced electrolysis that I am aware of, but the lead researcher who works for the Navy as a contractor cannot get more than a couple days away from work to do research, so this project is for all practical purposes on hold, compared to the other technologies listed here.

Bob Boyce ? Advanced Electrolysis Technology (open source)
Received funding and Toyota Prius for water car project.  He is probably the leader in this field of R&D, as he has successfully built water cars in the past...thank the oil cartel for not hearing about Boyce before now.

Bob Dratch ? bob {at} bob-dratch.org ? Thorium Power Pack
Concept only, though info on similar units working in Europe have surfaced.

David Yurth ? davidyurth {at} novainstituteoftechnology.com - Self-Recharging Electric Vehicle
Proof of concept successful, funding received, will have prototype car available for demo early next year.

Ted Loder ? info {at} aero2012.com ? Advanced Energy Research Organization LLC
Spearheading the most promising fund for advanced energy technology currently established.
Prototype unit almost finished, will have to be independently validated.

Sterling Allan ? sterlingda {at} pureenergysystems.com - New Energy Congress
Spearheaded Pure Energy Systems and New Energy Congress - started several years ago.

Stephen Kaplan ?  stephenkap {at} gmail.com - New Energy Movement
Volunteer supporter of New Energy Movement and New Energy Congress

Nora Maccoby ? nora {at} maccoby.com - Energy Consensus Group
Networking with all interested parties to fund adv energy techs and disclose these techs to the world.

Tom Valone ? iri {at} erols.com - Integrity Research Institute
In direct contact with at least two research teams who are finishing up latest adv energy prototype units
Suggest contacting Dr. Valone directly for additional information.

Lawrence Tseung ? ltseung {at} hotmail.com - Wang Shum Ho Electricity Generator
progresss as noted in previous post from Lawrence

Tom Bearden ? webmaster {at} cheniere.org ? Motionless Electromagnetic Generator
Waiting on funding from U.N...tied up in some account indefinitely apparently.

John/Gary Bedini ? info {at} energenx.com ? Bedini Motor/Generator
Newest units to be made available in weeks...unknown what output of new units are.

David Wenbert ? david.wenbert {at} gmail.com ? Geovoltaic Energy Pump
Only needs ~$5K to purchase materials for this tech, but it's a long shot worth considering.

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Regarding the CIA, I might as well make it clear upfront that not only do various gov't agencies not talk to each other, there is even friction between offices within the Army...I'm sure the Chinese gov't can relate.  Nora said it's the same political soup sandwich over there.  The only CIA POC I am in contact with is actually someone who was kicked out of his CIA position, James Woolsey.  He wanted to start a biofuels project when he was CIA directly and got the boot.  Oh well, that's people for you...fighting over bread crumbs rather than working together to make enough bread for everyone.  Anyway, it's up to us to bring these techs to market.  If the Chinese want to work with any of the above groups or individuals, POC info is provided - no need to go through me or even keep me in the loop...arranged this way by design so these techs make it to the public ASAP.

[Koen1]

Gee, we've really never heard of those technologies man, thanks, we really needed that. 

But we're not talking about other inventions here. We're talking about mr Tseungs over unity claims.

If you want other peoples over unity claims or devices there's lots of sources, and even reliable ones in that.
Check out Tom Beardens site, for example.
You should like that, he is also a retired military guy who worked on top secret tech in his day, has great stories on
Soviet (and US) "Tesla"/scalar weaponry etc.
But he also gives a nice list of devices that have shown or suggest OU effects.

Still, no proof whatsoever that the simple use of air-valves would allow us to pump a stream of water with air bubbles
higher than we could pump an equal amount of water itself...
Tseung never substantiates his claims.
I still haven't seen any analysis of the water + air bubble stream pressure on the valves that would in any way make it
credible that the pressure of the water column above a valve could be lower than the pressure of the water + bubbles below the valve...
That appears to be what Tseungs claim boils down to, at least in his water pumping "experiment".
He also claims this can easily be done electrically using some type of oscllator, but he never provides any design or experimental setup.

If his point is only that there are some interesting OU devices being studied, then he should simply keep it at that and by all means post enthousiastic
messages about these devices and new developments in that area.
But if his claim truly is that he has a theory that can actually predict OU setups and work out how to build them from his theory, then he must prove this.
So far he still has not.
He has produced tons of text, most of it blowing his own trumpet and telling everybody how great and fantastic HIS theory is. But when push comes to shove and we ask him to prove that his supposed theory works and to give us an experimental setup that is actually OU and fits predictions according to Tseungs claimed theory, he always becomes evasive, or he repeats incomplete and very unprofessional descriptions of "experiments" that others did.

Any random nutcase with a strong belief in the possibility of Free Energy devices could do the same.

And so Tseung comes across as yet another such nutcase, albeit a tenacious one.
He seems intent on convicing us, yet he seems totally unwilling to provide any form of proper convincing proof.

And considering his proven forum "fraud" in the past, where he posts discussions with himself under ther names, multi-accounting multiple personality disorder type thing, we are in fact not even sure if you truly exist "Todd". For all we know you are just mr Tseung posting under another name again.
That's another problem with this mr Tseung character. He undermines his own credibility doing such things.
And of course his constant repetition of remarks about "the CIA and Likes" hindering his activities don't really serve to provide credibility.

That said, I wonder what exactly your criteria are for the list you gave; some of them are indeed interesting possible OU technologies, but others are clearly not. Thorium energy cells for example, although high output, are definately not OU. Nor are they actually new.
Have you checked out this forum? There's lots of subjects here too, many directly related to the things you listed. Perhaps worth discussing here, instead of trying to get people there?

[hansvonlieven]

Just arrived home.  Wang Shum Ho sends his regards.  He now has 4 titles:

(1)   Ã¤Â¸â€"ç•Å'生產率科學éâ,,¢Â¢Ã¤Â¸Â­Ã¥Å"‹åˆ†æÅ"Æ'副理事長
Deputy Chairman, World Confederation of Productivity Science, China Chapter.  This is the Organization that sponsored the Conference in Shenzhen, China.

(2)   Ã¤Â¸Â­Ã¥Å"‹æâ€"°èÆ'½æºå…¬å¸å‰¯ç¸½è£ï¼Å'å…¼æŠâ,¬Ã¨Â¡â€œÃ§Â¸Â½Ã§â€ºÂ£
Vice President, New Energy Source Company of China and Chief Scientist.  This is the Company once referred to as General Magnetic.  This Company is planning its International IPO in 2008.

(3)   Ã¦Â¸â€¦Ã¨ÂÂ¯Ã¥Â¤Â§Ã¥Â­Â¸Ã¥Â°â€"端科æŠâ,¬Ã§Â â€Ã§Â©Â¶Ã©â,,¢Â¢Ã¥â€°Â¯Ã©â,,¢Â¢Ã©â€¢Â·
Deputy Head of Department, Advanced Sciences, Tsing Hua University.

(4)   Ã¤Â¸Â­Ã¥Å"‹è§£æ”¾è»ç¸½è£å‚â,,¢Ã©Æ'¨ï¼Å'å°â€"端科æŠâ,¬Ã§Â â€Ã§Â©Â¶Ã¥Â°â€˜Ã¥Â°â€¡
Junior General, Advanced Science Research, Peoples Liberation Army of China.

The English Translation is from me and may not be correct.

More than 20 Wang Electricity Generators are in test mode.  The longest uninterrupted test started in early October 2007.  The test results are likely to be announced Worldwide when there is at least a six month non-interrupted operation.

I am sure the real CIA can confirm all the above.  Dear Major Todd, if your colleagues need more information, email me.

Wang Shum Ho

    I am Wang Shum Ho and I do not speak nor write English. Thus I am requesting Mr. Lawrence Tseung to post my ideas for me ? using my name. Mr. Tseung previously used his point of view to post my information and did a good job.

    However, I have my own points of view ? that should be expected from any serious innovator and inventor.

    My points of view are:

    1. My 5 KW Electricity Generator is better and closer to production than almost any other Over Unity Device published on the various Patent Offices or on the Internet.

    2. My Generator has been demonstrated in front of 5 Chinese Officials on January 15, 2007. The materials used were not the best because of lack of funding. However, the device was assembled from components level and rotated in front of these Officials.

    3. I authorized Mr. Tseung to show one set of early prototype pictures. The feedback was better than I expected. Some organizations including a major International Oil Company called me to express interest. However, international phone call with an interpreter did not produce the desired result.

    4. I authorized Mr. Tseung to reveal the entire technology in case I died. I would not want to carry the secret of the technology into my grave. However, I still want to enjoy the fruit of my thirty-years of sweat. I want to share it with my loved ones in my remaining years.

    5. I do not object to the strategy of producing 4 prototypes first ? one each in Beijing, Hong Kong, United Nations and Float. Then we can produce 200 ? one to every Country as a gift from China or United Nations. Mr. Tseung and I do not have the funds to achieve this. Thus raising money for this just cause is worthwhile. We do not care whether people label us as hoax or scam.

    6. I intend to provide the full theoretical knowledge and the detailed assembly instructions to every Nations for a reasonable fee ? after they have received the gift. If they do not produce oil, they may never need to buy oil for fuel again. For the Oil Producers, they better invest in this technology and produce the Generators before their oil becomes less valuable.

    7. For those individuals or organizations who have the financial means, they can come to see the working prototype in my possession now ? the same one the Chinese Officials saw on January 15, 2007. Email Lawrence Tseung at Ltseung@hotmail.com or Ltseung@netvigator.com for details.

    8. If you or your colleague can write in simplified Chinese, you may email me directly at wangshsdfm@126.com and cc Ltseung@hotmail.com


If Wang Shum Ho is such an exalted figure in China, how come he is looking for money from the west and needs someone like Lawrence to represent him?

Get real, Wang Shum Ho as well as Major Todd are Lawrence's alter egos. No official of a US agency conducts his correspondence through a forum such as this.

Hans von Lieven

[chrisC]

Wang Shum Ho

    I am Wang Shum Ho and I do not speak nor write English. Thus I am requesting Mr. Lawrence Tseung to post my ideas for me ? using my name. Mr. Tseung previously used his point of view to post my information and did a good job.

    However, I have my own points of view ? that should be expected from any serious innovator and inventor.

    My points of view are:

    1. My 5 KW Electricity Generator is better and closer to production than almost any other Over Unity Device published on the various Patent Offices or on the Internet.

    2. My Generator has been demonstrated in front of 5 Chinese Officials on January 15, 2007. The materials used were not the best because of lack of funding. However, the device was assembled from components level and rotated in front of these Officials.

    3. I authorized Mr. Tseung to show one set of early prototype pictures. The feedback was better than I expected. Some organizations including a major International Oil Company called me to express interest. However, international phone call with an interpreter did not produce the desired result.

    4. I authorized Mr. Tseung to reveal the entire technology in case I died. I would not want to carry the secret of the technology into my grave. However, I still want to enjoy the fruit of my thirty-years of sweat. I want to share it with my loved ones in my remaining years.

    5. I do not object to the strategy of producing 4 prototypes first ? one each in Beijing, Hong Kong, United Nations and Float. Then we can produce 200 ? one to every Country as a gift from China or United Nations. Mr. Tseung and I do not have the funds to achieve this. Thus raising money for this just cause is worthwhile. We do not care whether people label us as hoax or scam.

    6. I intend to provide the full theoretical knowledge and the detailed assembly instructions to every Nations for a reasonable fee ? after they have received the gift. If they do not produce oil, they may never need to buy oil for fuel again. For the Oil Producers, they better invest in this technology and produce the Generators before their oil becomes less valuable.

    7. For those individuals or organizations who have the financial means, they can come to see the working prototype in my possession now ? the same one the Chinese Officials saw on January 15, 2007. Email Lawrence Tseung at Ltseung@hotmail.com or Ltseung@netvigator.com for details.

    8. If you or your colleague can write in simplified Chinese, you may email me directly at wangshsdfm@126.com and cc Ltseung@hotmail.com


If Wang Shum Ho is such an exalted figure in China, how come he is looking for money from the west and needs someone like Lawrence to represent him?

Get real, Wang Shum Ho as well as Major Todd are Lawrence's alter egos. No official of a US agency conducts his correspondence through a forum such as this.

Hans von Lieven

hahahaha! You're funny Hans. Maybe Major Todd thinks this stuff is really worth investigating? After all, we can't believe how fast the internet can disseminate great ideas that quickly, can we? Look, the Chinese used smoke signals along the Great Wall of China to communicate events, until Mr. Tseung came along and gave them glimpses into the future; overunity devices, theories and of course Chinese to English translation abilities, thrown in for free!

cheers
chrisC